Mechagnomes & Horde Mains

This is actually Alliance bias (sort off) but I did not dig off this comment to mention it (at least not only for this :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:). Overall its easier to start playing as new Alliance race that will boost Alliance numbers and its a hore for anyone that want to jump ship and play Horde.

Still I quoted it to ask… Is it really true? I need only Rustbolt? Nothing else? No stuff like “Finish Alliance War Campaign” or something? I must know because I am considering making Alliance main out of this race (to my surprise)

I read something about having to finish the questline on Alliance side, earlier today, but I don’t know if it’s true. I’m still working on my rep… 'cause I burned off that island months ago…

The original interview, which the GM or whoever you talked with, originates from a 3rd party video BlizzCon interview he has been watching between Autumn-Winter 2017.

The current inGame Mechagnomes were not requested for but they were included because of their mindset what may work in the storyline:

Paul : “When we were going through the Allied Races and, kind of, choosing what made the most sense for those races, we went through a number of considerations - first and foremost story considerations.”

During Legion Blizzard received a lot of community feedback that gnomes were nearly non-existent in the story which is why Mekkatorque and the lore has been pushed into the BfA-content. Big ditto for the Night Elves, Worgens, Goblins and Trolls a bit. They went with the Mechagnomes everyone knows now - which were not the requested ones but the from WotLK, which is a big difference. Therefore, Eridu is still right. They are just another compromise.

The comment that I shared was related to exactly this kind of discussion on the forums where I had said most of them feel like they are just re-skins and don’t really feel like new races. At the time I expressed how I am not really fussed about most of the additions.

So you can all twist and interpret and comment in whatever way you see fit, it will not change that the Allied races were introduced bearing in mind the requested variations by the playerbase.

Some of you don’t like and go out of your way to hate on some of the Allied races. That is fine. You don’t get to change that they were requested. You or I may not have requested them.

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While it is true, what that CM said to you, that allied races reflect subraces what players wanted to see for a long time, it also does not reflect on the Mechagon-discussion on hand.

There is no “twisting” or anything else involved. You simply wish to generalize two mechagnome races into one which is why Eridu started the whole discussion with you.

You are clearly not going to accept that the races are in response to requests from the playerbase.

Mechagnomes have been requested. Some may not like what they have gotten, mainly it seems to be due to transmog restrictions but they are still a response to requested races.

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If it wasn’t clear, I agree with you.

But here I’m disagree with you. I think the main issue here is either that you don’t know that there are two different mechagnome races or talking exclusively only about the BfA-mechagnomes.

You can disagree all you like. That’s what the forums are there for. However it wont change the facts.

You have not presented any facts so far, you simply connecting two dots here by referring to a CM-friend of yours. Like it or not, Eridu got you there hard with something you try to bury.

If you want to believe that, knock yourself out. I haven’t buried anything, nothing has changed. Like I said.

Blizzard put Allied Races in the game in response to frequently requested variations of races. Obviously that does not apply to every single race, Void Elves were probably more likely a response the request for High Elves, but Void Elves themselves were never requested.

Whilst I may not care or want a Mag’har orc for example, there are parts of the player base that has wanted them. Whilst I feel it could have been done as a customisation for the existing Orc model, Blizzard put it in as an Allied race.

That will not change that people asked for the races, they may not be getting exactly what they wanted, that is the nature of things sometimes. It does not change that they are frequently requested races/variations thereof.

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To be fair, you have no facts that the new version is a worse trade off either. I’m one of those who loved the original mechagnomes, but I still love the apperance of the new ones too. There are bound to be differences in peoples past opinions here - the racial graphical updates are decent proof of that. Aylish lost her face. I had to find a new face for her, as I hated the “upgraded” version. Have you compared the original gnomes to the ones we have now? They also look completely different. I hated my gnome at first, but I loved the actual upgrade. She went from looking really cute and calm, to a crazy freak. I learned to love that look though, so kept it. But yeah, the gnomes changed drasticly after the upgrade. It’s sort of the same thing. You either like the change, or you don’t, but they are still mechagnomes. You may also be neutral to it, obviously.

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I’d just like to point out that it is something entirely different to grind a reputation from the first BfA patch (Vol’dunai, Zandalari, Order of Embers and such) than the Rustbolt one.

I am a Horde main but I want to do ALL the quests and stories. If I had to do Rustbolt one more time I would probably throw my keyboard out of the window.

I think, what was expected to hear from you, was something akin to the older Mechagnomes and not about the overall design philosophy Blizzard approaches doing these sub-races.

Actually, I do have something. Reddit shows a bit of the player base reaction. I’m referring for the sake of having an argument to the posting with 3192 votes if you’re interested in reading it:

https://old.reddit.com/r/wow/search/?q=Mechagnome&sort=top&restrict_sr=on&t=all

I can’t change why they are doing Allied races, no matter how many times you quote stuff.

Not everyone is going to like every version of the Allied races they release. That doesn’t stop them being requested by players.

Are you refering to the “What I expected, what I got;” thread?

The picture to the left is their heritage armor as far as I know, and someone really went out of their way to attempt making the picture to the right as retarded as possible. Besides, even I found the comparison funny(seen it before somewhere).

It also doesn’t change the fact that people are horribly vocal about things they are upset about(myself included), and there is a spesific type of audience replying to forums of various sorts. There is a % representation of opinions all over the community, yes, but to take these forums as an example, spesific people post so much about it that it sounds like a big uproar, while it’s really not. I see nothing on that reddit page I haven’t seen here honestly. People trying to make their opinon a fact(as if Mechagnomes were a mistake because they say so). Sorry the mechangnomes didn’t turn out the way you wanted them - meanwhile someone else is pleased and looking forward to play them.

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And these new mechagnomes are the same as Void Elves. People asked for WotLK mechagnomes and Blizzard gave them something completely different.

Honestly, I’m confused here. Why is this so hard for you to grasp?

I am not the one who can’t understand.

I’m really running out of ways to express the same thing.

Yes you are. Either that or you’re one of those people who just have to be right no matter what.

And yet as you said, the void elves were never requested before BfA. High elves were. So why are suddenly the mechagnomes any different? People ask for variation A of them and Blizzard gives them variation B.

Likewise. And I hate wasting my time in an obviously pointless discussion, so I think I’ll just agree to disagree here and go drink something.

No I’m not.

Good lord give me strength…

I am not saying that the mechagnomes weren’t a requested race. I’m saying that their current form that’s going to become available to players wasn’t requested. WotLK mechagnomes were.

WotLK mechagnomes were requested.

BfA mechagnomes weren’t.

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