Rogues absolutely slapped in later raids in tbc. Wasn’t it a rogue who was the first to hit 2k dps? You are more likely to see 3 per raid than 1.
3 Rogues are kinda unlikely, alas. There generally is only one melee group in a 25m raid, and with Arms Warrior, Enha and Retradin you already have only 2 slots left. Maybe on Alliance where you may go without Ret I could see a reason, but otherwise you’re basically restricted to 1-2 slots.
But it’s not troll or bull.
You just said it yourself you’re team wanted exactly the comp I just typed in. Private servers have a far smaller playerbase.
When TBC official servers come out , far greater playerbase and hence far more selection to be far more pickier. To think teams won’t selectively go with my set up and is kinda ignorant.
I mean your talking lala land from my perspective. But nice of you to find some good people to play with on a pirate version of the game.
As we found out about Classic , private servers got it wrong. Even the most " Blizz like" So we can assume same goes for TBC private servers.
Where did I say that? I just told you we did NOT use ur comp… Not once! I only said that we used 1 warrior dps, 1 boomkin dps and we tried to bring 5 shamans but that 3 is enough… Now that makes a total of 5 to 7 set positions. This still leaved 18 to 20 other positions left to fill with good people yes?
And what are you basing your information on if not Pservers? And don’t give me that crap that you remember when u played 12y ago.
And when it comes to composition the P servers didn’t get it wrong in classic ether…
Stop spilling ur gew man…
Hey OP, how many raids do you see with 20+ fury warriors, one druid and 2 hunters?
My server has exactly one, in a guild that snagged world first Razor and Vael on BWL release before falling behind (but still staying in top 20). Everyone else runs more or less with what’s available.
Same will be true in TBC. Yes the top dogs will absolutely optimize their raid composition. And some people will try to follow suit at least somewhat. And most people won’t. Yes, some fury warriors and rogues and mages will reroll shaman in prepatch, and that’s okay too.
I am staying Mage, because that’s my main, period. If that means sitting outside Sunwell buffing int and vending water, so be it. I’ll go see the content once it’s on farm and they start to cycle in the poor vending machines.
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Wouldn’t be surprised if Guild firsts have no melee at all tbh. Just pure lock and hunter pawnage with 1 ele for that 100sp.
If “world firsts” (if you wanna call that) are what you care about, then yeah. If you just care about clearing content, it doesn’t matter.
Just go watch first kills from back then from guilds like SK Gaming, Giant Censored Robots, Nihilum and so on. You’ll see they use Rogues, Mages and all that stuff you claim to have to place in a TBC raid.
That was back then …. We know things they didn’t. Look at Hakkar dying on Wednesday. They just used lots of warriors , people in naxx gear couldn’t kill him back in the day.
How many people killed Hakkar with 5 priests and/or went into ZG with a comp like that, compared to people who just did ZG “normally”?
Also, theorycraft in TBC was a lot more advanced than in Classic, even the most prepared TBC pserver guilds couldn’t clear SWP any faster than 50% of what was first done by guilds back then (i.e. 4 mins as opposed to 6, for example). Whereas in “modern” Vanilla you see guilds downing bosses 4/5 times as fast, even in Naxx.
Even if people won’t go for that exact comp or similar, a significant part of the player base will go for Hunter/Lock because they are the best.
Just look at how many wars and mages you see on classic compared to any other class.
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Absolutely. Bringing a boomkin in tbc is never optimal.
Perhaps it is, but also the opinion of many others.
TBC will for sure offer a lot of fun and also Wotlk but im pretty certain that the demand for Classic will still be there even if its a few servers.
Yeah but you still sound dismissive towards people asking for other expansions. Or were people who asked for Classic crybabies, too? What makes you think that only Classic (Vanilla) was a legit request?
Because it was the original version of WoW.
Crybabies dont play original WoW. Original WoW plays with crybabies.
Joke aside…Just tired of seeing all threads of people calling out for the next thing constantly. This makes Blizzard push out content faster and its shortening the lifespan of Classic.
So far, the PvE raiding content has been released pretty much at the same pace as it was released back in original Vanilla, with one raid tier every roughly 6 months. Assuming AQ comes out around August and Naxx comes around January 2021, we’re pretty much on the same tracks. So there’s not much to cry about “content pushed too fast” here.
But I’ll tell you more. If we ought to assume (as it seems likely to me, given how these things work) that the job positions opened for the Classic team a few months ago were related to the making of Classic TBC, then it’s very likely that the greenlight for Classic TBC (and WotLK) came much earlier than this survey - probably as soon as they saw the launch numbers for Classic. At that point, it’s safe to assume that the basic roadmap from Classic to TBC was already more or less set in stone. Sure, some things (mostly PvP content) may have been put out earlier as a form of “damage control”, but otherwise things have probably been planned out from the beginning to be integrated into WoW’s retail schedule (so that Shadowlands’ release would neatly fall between Classic and TBC).
In short, it is very likely that:
(1) Classic TBC was greenlit long before (and regardless of) all these threads we’ve seen in favor and against TBC from October/November onwards
(2) None of people’s complaints about content being released “too fast” or “too slow” changed Classic’s plans in the medium term, with the main deadlines already decided long ago
This is what I would I expect, at least, given how corporates function. Unless you believe that a few threads here and there on a forum may have a decisive impact on a joint stock company’s decisions to hire people, undertake projects, make investments and schedule the launches of new products.
EDIT: Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying feedback from forums and elsewhere doesn’t matter at all… several of Blizzard’s decisions about Classic were probably based on players’ feedback. However, stuff like whether to launch TBC or not was probably never going to be decided based on some people’s threads here.
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nah just lvl ur tbc ‘main’ as an alt now and gear it with the stuff u need from vanilla @70
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People wanted nochanges and they got changes, of course they complain, are you joking
- Vanilla launched early november 2004.
- BWL patch 1.6 released 12th July 2005 (8 months after game launch)
- ZG patch 1.7 released 13th sept 2005 (10 months after game launch)
- AQ20/40 patch 1.9 released 3rd jan 2006 (14 months after game launch)
- Naxx patch 1.11 released 20th june 2006 (19 months after game launch)
Yes it was probably decided to discuss release of TBC earlier by Blizzard ( within their corporation) put content is still being released abit earlier than expected. If we add up these dungeons releases they come approx 2 months earlier than original schedule. With all 4 major dungeons summed up we are talking about a 6 months shorter lifespan of Classic.
Dont get me wrong I want to try a character for TBC aswell but I dont see why we need the rush just to make the crybabies satisfied. I can bet that in short. Threads about AQ release asap will fill these forums…
Ye they can do some fun bgs and 5mans, a little herbing, play the ah game…LOL.
If you count American release, yeah, phase 1 lasted 6 and not 8 months. It’s almost exactly day to day fitting for February 12, 2005 European release however.
You wot m8? It’s still only 2 months earlier from American release, every phase is 2 months earlier or just on time, depending if you count American or Euro release. Where did you pull those 6 months out of? At worst it’s 2 months shorter lifespan.
What, were you hoping to get a polite reply with phrases like that? Shut our whining mouth already, you are the crybaby here. Phase timing is just right, why are you crying about it on the forum?
Yes they will, and Blizzard will ignore them and release Phase 5 exactly according to European Vanilla release schedule.
Edit: Personally, I appreciate how Blizzard sticks to the original Euro release schedule, it’s recreating the game closer to how it was back then, incluting the spans of availability of content. I even wouldn’t mind if they pushed TBC back a month or two, say to August 27th, 2021 (wink wink), so that people have really no excuse for not clearing Naxx this time around.