Any one else agree and or cringe when they come across this mentality in game or on forums? I know I do.
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Yeah their mentality is destructive for people who just try to enjoy the game for what it is (fantastic)
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They ruin AV, they ruined the PvP phase 2 experience, they ruin the forum with their dull sheeplike replies to people’s genuine concerns and fun.
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I’m sorry for knowing how to play the game.
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yep, Im gonna go ahead and be a sheep and agree that minmaxers ruin the game, then proceed to minmax the game.
This minmaxing especially breeds hate, racism (in game) and all sorts of other forms of toxicity towards players new to the game.
But can you really blame em (the minmaxers)? they’ve been playing on private servers for a long time. Their first chars were prolly human male mages back in phoenix 2012 but now they’ve learned about racial power in pvp so they get extremely angry when they come across a human male mage out there on a pvp realm.
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I personally like to min max … and yes nowadays there are many more than back in vanilla.
I dont like RP or any other non efficient activities.
On the other hand i can understand that ppl wanna play this game in a different way than me, and i honestly think that there is enough space for both mentalities in classic. Just try to find ppl that wanna play the game like you do and have fun with them.
Because thats all what games are about: having fun 
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They just realise possibilities given by blizzard game design, all sh.tty moments could be avoided by making some reasonable tweaks to 15 years old game
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They dont have that much effect and if anything i’d say minmaxers make the game better.
I get that some people can be annoying, you don’t have to listen to them.
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I somewhat agree my view is that if someone wants to min max then feel free I’ve got no problems in fact I do it myself but what I don’t do is try to force my play style on others or try to ridicule them for not min maxing.
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I agree. These elitists don’t have any fun playing the game because they play it like robots, so they have to ruin the fun for everybody else.
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that’s because you’re not competing in pvp teams
I wouldn’t call 60 hours of rushing drek competitive.
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Let’s be honest mate - min maxing in an AV pre made isn’t really necessary. If you can’t beat a Pug without using every possible advantage in the game then perhaps you don’t deserve the win anyway.
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that’s not the only form of pvp/e that happens in this game though
I don’t understand, are you excusing not trying to do everything you can do win in pvp?
Well that’s contradictary to what Min/maxing actually is which is being the most efficient you can be. So he’s correct in saying what he said because AV is the best honor grind. You won’t catch a min/maxer playing WSG if they are trying to rank.
I don’t think it’s the mentality TBH. The reason you see way more minmaxing in Classic is information. In Vanilla many people did stupid stuff because they thought it was good. Now a lot more people know what’s good.
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I’m not excusing it but I feel a lot of min maxers take it too far I can understand having an epic mount is a fair requirement for joining an AV pre made but some people expect much more when in reality you don’t need to min max to crush a Pug. You can still have someone who min maxs who just follows guides and does everything they read/watch that are trash at the game and at the same time you can have someone who is fairly skilled who pushes their character but not to the extremes that some people do; I know which player I’d rather do dungeons and PvP with.
My gripe with min maxers we are talking about is they don’t give an individual the chance and only care about ticking boxes.
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Well I mostly meant the guy who said outside of AV. I just mean the in general pvp scenario where it makes sense that you want to avoid dying at all costs:p
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Stop connecting minmaxing to AV only. I understand AV is a big pain in everyone’s as…s but it’s not the whole game. I also don’t like minmaxing but it’s there and it promotes elitism. That is why I did not roll an enhance shamy or a druid tank (decisions I regret now). However, I am going to fix that and I would rather find other people to team up with instead.
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