Hah, didn’t even notice that… Ironic as you say.
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My post said the truth. Can you deny it with proofs?
There are plenty of proofs in the forum where “innocent” posts where flagged just because people disagreed them or disliked the topic of that post. And the existence of “snowflakes” is known and how they react and behave. So what’s wrong in bashing “snowflakes” ? What’s wrong in bashing unreasonable people that get “grumpy” and have tantrum crisis for any mistake you do?
In a way i feel that you are part of this category of people. You have high “sensitivity” and your reply proves it. Especially that you used the “elevated vocabulary” tactic against me, which is a common thing used by “snowflakes”, where you reply with “smart words” and “riddles”.
No offense, but i hate these types of people. One thing is to start drama from a reasonable reason and another is to start it just because you can. These types of people should be excluded from society and any types of groups or communities (like for example this forum).
Just a few weeks ago i was bashed and flagged because i started a token topic, where i brought proofs that something is wrong and that it is unfair that the token cost less in some regions and more in others. I said that is wrong the token price difference depending your region, because everyone is playing the same game. So why the token is 2x times cheaper in China than Europe for example? People started to bash me, flag my post and in the end i was muted for 2 days. Even now i can’t understand the reason of why they did that, taking in consideration that nobody, of all people who replied, didn’t even bother to bring a counter-argument. Instead to contradict me with reasonable arguments, they started to call me “names” and talk with me in riddles and report me.
That’s the society we live now…a society where you need to conform and obey the majority and if you don’t do that, you are bashed and excluded. That is wrong.
I saw your profile and something caught my attention: the most liked user by you is Punnyelf. I think that says all…
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I am not going to quote the whole wall of text you have just spewed at me but people using their own language is hardly ‘elevated vocabulary’. I use the language I was taught in school, a UK comprehensive, and have picked up during over 20 years of working at sea.
For information the game isn’t the same between US/EU and China there are quite a few differences in both the payment model and the artwork in the game to bring it in line with Chinese regulations which is probably why there is a difference in the token price between the two models. The fact that you had a 2 day ban would suggest to me that you managed to fall foul of, the sometimes quite draconian, rules of these forums, as I, as well as others, have been flagged in the past with no action taken on our accounts.
The fact that you had to pull up the fact that my most liked poster was Punyelf, someone who is often highly critical of both the game and Blizzard (not that the rampant haters ever bother to look into) seems like you have more issues than just your perceived snowflakes.
Anyhow I digress. Stay within the rules and even if you do get mass flagged for an unpopular opinion and you’ll get unflagged by the moderators an no action taken. The drama appears to be yours of the making.
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To be fair i am surprised that nobody “flagged” me yet. And when i was speaking about “useless” flagging, you know what i mean. Many posts, where flagged, even if the OP didn’t broke any forum rules. So let’s be fair.
Where is he critical? On reddit? Because on this forum he doesn’t express “his feelings” properly. One thing is to use “diplomatic” language and say something like “the idea is not bad, but it could be better” and another is to say blunt and say “the idea is bad, you need to change it” . And i hope you understand what i mean. Being a MVP doesn’t come if you criticise directly in the face what Blizzard is doing wrong. It comes only if you are a “subdued” person that goes in the same “line” with Blizzard’s ideology. And we both know it. Punnyelf never expressed his “real feelings” about the game. He always used a “middle language” , where he could let a door open for future.
And yes, for your curiosity, i read his last week replies/post history. So, after reading almost 200+ posts/replies made by him, not even one had something “critical” regarding Blizz or the game.
I don’t say that the entire game is bad and that overall, WoW is the best game (at least compared with it’s competition), but there are some issues that can be adressed, yet he avoided to do so. And i am 100% sure that he wants to say the truth but he doesn’t because of fear of loosing his “forum reputation” and MVP status. This proves the duality in the human nature and how we comply and give up to our principles for a little bit of “attention” or “fame” . You can’t say that this forum has at least 1 user/player that is 100% satisfied with the game. It’s impossible.
It doesn’t matter if my opinion is popular or not. That should not happen. What’s next? Throwing stones and killing people for unpopular opinions? So what’s the purpose of democracy? Let’s go back to dictatorship and end the story.
Flagging should be removed and if Blizzard doesn’t have enough staff, then they can promote some users as MVP and give them the rights to mod the forum. This automated system where you get muted because 10 players report you is stupid and you know that many people abuse this system.
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Their token does not buy a month, it buys so many hours, I’m not sure of the number.
The other thing people don’t understand about ticket is that Blizzard do not set the price, it’s a market economy, which means less tokens on the AH and the price goes up, the more there are the price lowers.
My “most liked by” and “most liked” is Punyelf too. I really should like more posts by others. She (I think it’s a she) makes more sense than others seem to and is honest and helpful.
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It’s the same like our token. 30 days.
If you are going to slate Puny atleast get her gender right .
She has slated blizzard alot so i suggest you get your facts right about her .
You are just another case of MvP envy and choose to skip any anti blizzard posts she has made which is alot during BFA about TF and Corruptions.
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I thought they had an hourly paid version of the game?
That was scrapped last year.
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https://shop.battlenet.com.cn/zh-cn/product/world-of-warcraft-game-time-cn#techspecs
Not anymore. 30 days now.
Trust me i’m not. I don’t even have time to play the game properly, not to mention waste time to be jealous on a person because she/he is a MVP or not. Actually, i really don’t even give a … (you know) who is MVP or not.
What bothers me is that usually the MVP’s in a forum go in line with the forum creator (or in our case, game). So they usually, do not express their “critical” opinion as they should do.
If you are kind, can you show me a example where she was “very critical” against WoW and Blizzard? Take note that “very critical” (as you said) , means that her opinion was rough, without any diplomacy barriers and straight to the facts and the core of the issue. Thank you.
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Im sure you can look at her post history yourself you seem so intrested in her .
You can be cutting without using crude words maybe you can figure that out yourself .
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You are feisty. I like that. Here a like from me xD
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I never knew that, thanks for the info.
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Not gonna bother going through all of punys posts, but i read the forums enough to know she’s criticised warmode and the rewards in warmode, faulty sharding in warmode, titanforging and corruption, all the layers of rng, azerite grinding. Thats just the examples of the top off my head. Just a quick search for punyelf and corruption can give u several examples. And its quite possible to be critic without having to use language that gets you banned 
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If you read the opening post again please Yeha it does state that I was raising an issue about flagging abuse, but it seems you have taken this as an opportunity for MVP bashing and one MVP in particular.
Now I see Sinaaki kindly posted a quote from Punyelf where she is quite critical of a new system in WoW, there are lots of other posts I have personally seen also, we could link them all or you could go and look at these posts yourself?
What I will say is you have derailed this thread into a personal attack against one person, if you have anything further to say about flagging abuse then feel free to contribute. However, please don’t use this thread as an opportunity to start forum pvp or put forward ideas on MVPs, it is not what the thread is about.
So my response in essence without any diplomacy barriers, just straight to the facts.
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Sadly, in my opinion, i don’t think that the example gaved by Sinaaki, is a “very critical” attack of her/him against Blizz or the game. A “very critical” attack would be like that:
“This loot system will be a disaster. Again Blizz instead to learn from your past mistakes, you ruin your game deeper and deeper.Why don’t you want to change it?”
Although both “messages” say the same, the second one is more aggressive and straight to the topic. And in some cases, “aggressiveness” is a must to get the desired results.
It is true that i derailed a bit the topic and maybe it was a bit too “personal attack”. But my reason for doing that is because i do not understand the reason for him to give to Punnyelf more than 100 likes. What i mean with that is that there a lot of smart and intelligent people that come with the same ideas or even better, yet they are in obscurity and ignored just because they don’t have green text. Blizzard again did the mistake by dividing us into categories. Punnyelf did nothing revolutionary. He/she didn’t came with a “omg idea” to change something in the forum or in the game. He just repeated the same things like other hundreds or thousands of users did. So why he/she should be elevated on “higher ground” just because of that?
Yes, i would understand if he/she would have mod status. But a normal user to be elevated just because he is liked by a few people it’s absurb. This is division and always with division comes frustration, dislike, anger, etc.
I apologise if i was too “rough” regarding Punnyelf topic, but my opinion still remains the same. He should have that MVP status removed and if Blizzard wants to promote him as mod, okay, if not, keep him as normal user. Same for the other MVP users on this forum.
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I have been going to these forums since TBC and I can tell you that these forums are NOT for debate or anything of that kind.
The official WoW forums have always been known to be a place for regulars and “fanboys” to gather and flag/report anyone who gives any criticism whatsoever. You can quickly see that a lot of topics here get flagged and downvoted and especially trolled by the same kind of regulars you can see in every single thread. They always tell you that the game is fine or that you should quit or that it sounds like the problem is with you and not the game. It doesn’t matter if you have any good feedback or not, these regulars will start this chain and derail the thread. They try to make you get pissy so that they can report you. They get a kick out of it. I used to post on ArenaJunkies back in the day and every single player there hated the official forums and agreed that you cannot get any proper discussion up here. I would recommend that if you are serious about sharing your opinion on the game with people who care about what you think and not just criticise everything you say just to get you banned then find yourself somewhere else.
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I see I need to make my response as plain as possible, I do not care if you like a particular MVP or not, that is your personal choice. But if you wish to discuss this then make a new thread about this issue and I and I am sure others will comment on such a thread.
My original post was about abuse with the flagging system and this is the topic we should be discussing. Please stop trying to derail a thread.
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The thing is you can get discussions going here, the problem comes when people don’t respect the other posters and start insulting them and using bad words by masking.
For instance saying, “I disagree with you and here’s why…” is fine but a lot of posters, and this is not aimed at anyone say “You F-ing idiot, you are a moron and stupid, your point is as stupid as you are”. Which causes people to be reported and that kind of thing belongs on reddit, not on a forum that Blizzard wants to say civil.
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This is an issue Abyzou and why I made the thread in the first place. I see mass flagging for no apparent reason, as a lot of the posts do not seem to me to break the Codes of Conduct.
I just hope that the system is changed sooner rather than later and that this ‘group mass flagging’ culture can be stopped. I truly believe that if you have an opinion you are entitled to express it, whether it goes against a more popular view or not. As long as we adhere to the CoC for posting then we should be able to express our view.