I’d treat multiboxers and bots the same way. If multiboxing is allowed, I don’t mind bots at all. If multiboxing was banned, I wouldn’t mind seeing bots banned. They’re all the same to me.
I have spent countless of hours corpse-camping low-level multiboxers and I usually sit around after they log, so I can surprise them 30-60 minutes later. Such was life back in 2006 and such is life in 2020 - only I work two jobs and have a girlfriend now. Still, I prioritize finding time to gank low-level multiboxers for at least a couple of hours every day. Keeps the world spinnin’ round and round.
Multiboxer is making the same amount of gold as the group. 100g on 5 chars is 100g regardless if they are played by the same human being or not. Whatever a multiboxer can do, you can do with friends.
Example: the other day me and 2 friends managed to do strat undead 3 man. 1 tank with an alt on follow. 1 mage with an alt on follow and my alt healing. Will you consider this unfair as well?
I multibox, and I follow that exact premise you stated. 1 computer, 1 account, 1 game client open- how do you propose that works now? I literally have 5 potato spec pc’s I’ve built from old pc’s from an office, 5 monitors, 5 mice, 1 keyboard … so… now explain how I am botting. There is zero extra software than what you use, and the 3rd party software the others use is a keyboard multiplier. Identical to the software on your computer, but instead of sending keystrokes to the top window it sends it to all. Please for the love of god learn about what you’re trash talking before you trash talk it… stating 3rd party software is like stating 3rd party software because you use a fancy keyboard with programmable extra buttons like the Logitech G series.
There is a massive difference between botting and multiboxing, just because you don’t understand it, doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.
I don’t know wtf you guys are even arguing about.
Having extra accounts gives you an advantage. Paying more money gives you an advantage.
Whether you call it p2w or something else doesn’t really matter, but since we can all agree that the statement itself is true, what is left here to argue about?
@Nibelung: This does not follow, at all. There are multiple different bot types that are extremely harmful to the overall play experience that are or have been used on single accounts. Botting is bad, even if every single botter only botted on one account.
What’s your definition of p2w then?
And the multiboxing advantages are absolutely within the game, I’m not sure what you’re talking about.
Being able to farm more gold, having extra bank space and extra summoners, being able to spy on the other faction etc, are all very substantial advantages.
For me the advantages are outside of the game. I have a busy life and work 8+ hours everyday, then being able to play whenever you want is a big advantage. There is also the satisfaction in being able to clear dungeons solo, the challenge, experimenting with different teams and setups etc. All this is outside the game.
Farming gold I think is boring so that is not a big thing for me. When I do farm gold I think it is more convenient and efficient using a single 60 mage and solo farm SM or ZF etc. I see no substantial advantage here.
I think gold is overrated anyway. What really matters is raid gear, with the exception from a few odd BOE pieces on AH, you can’t normally buy them. My 5-boxers have access to mainly blue/green gear so in that sense I am loosing against single box progression raiders. Maybe we should call it P2L
Bank space maybe yes , but I see no substantial advantages as you can always mail stuff to alts. I don’t think it matters much.
I play on PVE server so there is no need to spy on other people. I am mainly doing dungeons. That’s my thing.
In general I agree with you that there are advantages in game, but I believe they are not always very substantial. I think we are more or less on the same page so there is no reason to be snarky or hostile
This is the exact definition of pay to win. You get an advantage over other players by paying (extra) money. You can argue all day about the magnitude of that advantage and whether or not it matters, but that is absolutely pay to win by definition.
funny part is you can have potentialy much more of an advantage using multiboxing than you would get from using tokens, yet don’t see anyone defending the idea of tokens in classic.
Its the same crap on retail with multi-tap node. If they would remove it, and revert it back to single tap, all multibox farmer will be removed and forced to find other source, which is mostly killing fast respawns mobs for raw gold and loot.
Token is only a tool that ensures that the buyer wont get scammed.
(but you are not technically multiboxing then).