There is no exact/official definition of pay to win. You choose the definition that supports your viewpoint. You should be careful when using absolutes.
by your definition of p2w, litteraly not a single game that has ever existed is p2w.
Multiboxer here. AMA
I have two accounts. No multiboxing involved.
And you ever played both accounts simultaneously?
Are u mad bro?
Yes ofcā¦ they are merged into the bnett account. You need 2x wow open at the same time. No biggie
So dont you find it wierd that chars on the same bnet acc but different wow accs can be different faction same pvpserver. Clearly being on same bnet account identifies both acounts as belonging and being played by the same person. So why then does this bnet account not fall under the same game design rules that restricted wow accounts back then to 1 faction per account per pvp server??? Answer is simple, blizzard cares more about $$ than delivering an authentic vanilla experience.
If I recall correctly, this could be done even before bnett. Having multiple accounts is not illegal. I donāt multibox and probably never will.
I have 1 main account with this hunter + bank characters.
A 2nd account for my alts, summon lock and mainly to reset Dire Maul North runs.
And a 3rd account with alliances on the same server (I made this to gank guildies and friends, not active at the moment.
If I can use my friends as a reference, the majority have more than one account, classic is an old game so itās easy for computers to run several accounts at the same time. Itās fairly normal. Especially if you have a mage main, to boost your own alts in instances. And the the fact that you only need a sub for a second account without the need to purchase expansions (just to play classic) makes it subjectively cheap.
Obviously blizzard care about money and profit, in the end thatās what all companies do. Even a personal economy rely on income and profit to make the wheels go around.
I honestly dont see the negative outcome of being able to have more accounts, a multiboxer corpsecamping you is obviously more annoying compared to a mage who boost his own alt, or a hunter who resets his own instance.
This debate will never come to an agreement. X players + Y opinions = forever debate.
All this is pay 2win. You say you pay to be able to summon yourself. Why then cant i pay to be able to select say idk 10 different locations in the world of azeroth that i could teleport to whenever i want? Or pay to be able to /who the opposite faction orā¦? Being able to use simultaneous accounts is wrong, because it enables people to do stuff they couldnt do otherwhise. In essence, people are encouraged to pay more for a game they already pay a subscription for. In essence, this game as it is is , ontop of beeing pay2 play, is deeply pay to win.
Essentially all I do is save time. I dont get a huge advantage over players or ruin their experience.
A true pay to win would be like a private server you can donate to and get an insane weapon or armour, which then would give you an advantage in pvp.
Calling a self summon, self reset or self boosting pay to win, this I do not agree with. Its timesaving and nothing else.
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Ironicaly, the best and most popular private server, the one that most likely got us classic wow realised how harmful and potentialy gamebreaking multiboxing is and pretty much banned it completly, outside of having 2 chars of same faction logged in at the same time at a major city.
Yeah, what an insignificant little thing time is, in a game where your progress depends almost entirely on the amount of time you put in, right? [/sarcasm]
Tell it to that multiboxer who plays 25 shamans at once and does nothing but try to ruin guildās raids.
Everyweek that mboxer gets a couple of guys, even against the best guilds. If time doesnt matter that much, why cant i pay to have instant rank 14? Or instant lvl 60?
The 25 shaman guy use multibox, while this hunter not. Already big difference.
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The hunter is logged in to multiple characters at the same time. That is multiboxing.
For my info, multiboxing is where one control multiple characters at the same time. As the hunter claims, he didnt use such softwere, and must alt+tab to other window to control the other characters. Just because he logged on with multiple char on the same time, its not multibox.
Just because he chooses to not use the advantage extra accounts give you, doesnāt mean there isnāt any.
Ur wrong. Google definition of multibox. Cba repeating myself, prooved others wrong earlier. Also completly irrelevent.
@Lagislife
- You accuse every camper to be a multi-boxer. I noticed a lot of campers, especially alliance-characters, on my server as well. As Iām on a PvE server there is hardly anything I can do. I agree that this is very annoying to start with. I have characters on both sides and I at some point whispered with some of the campers and they were not related at all, just the opposite. Most of them currently have to do home-office and therefore use their second monitor to grab one of the black lotus when it spawns. This is a general flaw of the classic server that in an attempt to make it behave as 15 years ago but with plenty more raiding folks there is a natural shortage of flasks (or other resources like arcanit and stuff)
- While multi-boxing may be annoying the truth is, multi-boxers probably play their other characters at 50% of their potential. I have seen a multi-boxer video which had like 25 mages who bombed other players in front of BWL or MC partly due to the PvP server and farming honor and partly to slow down all those progamer raids that simplify the game to its fullest potential by obtaining every single buff the game has to offer and then claim that this game is to easy.
- Its always a question whether the gun is guilty of killing people or the one who pulled the trigger. The same holds true for multi-boxing. Multi-boxing itself is a totally different gaming experience compared to a standard game. You automatically assume that with multi-boxing everything is easy but if you control multiple accounts at the same time, you might realize that you might run into other problems (certain turn-in quests i.e. that require you to collect 15 items that have a drop-chance of like 2%; have fun doing such a quest with multiple characters if such a quest is already a pain for just one character). By that, yes I have 5 accounts and I sometimes play all 5 at once (but these are just < lvl 20; so just for the fun of it). I also only play them when either no-one in my guild or my RL friends are online. It is as mentioned before, everything depends on how you utilize things. It is surely annoying if multi-boxing is used to ruin the economy, but then solo-farming DM East or other gold/item farming instances are probably as well. Are my 5 toons stronger than a single player? Probably yes. Are they nearly as strong than 5 individual players? By far not! Iās say two individual players could probably outperform me on my 5 toons. So your comparison is flawed in multiple ways IMO.
- Multi-boxing is the concurrent control of multiple accounts at the same time. Itās debatable whether putting a toon on your main character on follow is enough to call it multi-boxing or if the actual combat engagement is what defines this term. Iād vote for the latter one.
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