I am not sure this is the only reason. Moonkin also has the advantage of being ranged and it offers better utility than Feral and hence is much better for M+.
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Moonkin is for people that want simple gameplay without putting the sweat into their character while feral is the spec you have to work hard for with farming the right stats,trinkets azerite build ,essences master your rotation and if u screw up once it will be really punishing but if moonkin fails the rotation once its not as punished as feral is
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Alpha bloodtalons looks like hot garbage but I do understand why theyâre changing it. The live-version of bloodtalons has two big issues:
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Combined with Sabertooth, itâs a crutch for the spec. When used together, they are too strong compared to the other talents on their respective rows so it feels like the spec lives or dies by these talents.
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Without Sabertooth (and even sometimes with it), it can lead to some really clunky situations where you need a regrowth when you donât have an instant one available. Without sabertooth you canât put a 2pt BT rip up then extend with bites so you open, use up your BT on combo builders and then have to either do a finisher without BT or hard-cast a regrowth. Weird.
To address issue 1, I think they need to either just numerically buff the other options or create some synergies between them that create other viable combos (like feral frenzy having a short-CD but costing lots of energy so it pairs well with predator, perhaps?).
To address issue 2, they just needed to make BT work only with finishers. Theyâve actually done that on the alpha but also messed with how you trigger it so itâs now both awkward to use and reduces the amount of self-healing feral can do without hurting their dps.
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i really dont care for blood talons much but i do care about losing a defensive cooldown
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I still believe they will cave in to pressure and drop the 1-charge of SI cooldown to 2-3 minutes.
2min CD on SI and Barkskin would be acceptable.
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Lets hope so!
Well if they donât, feral enters 9.0 as F-tier for PvP and theyâll end up doing something stupid to over-compensate.
With a 1-charge 2-min CD SI and barkskin, feral is a tiny bit better than it is now and will probably have 1-2 actually decent comps. Itâd still be miles away from OP.
What worries me is that they seem to want druid to go into bear more for defensives and then our offensive pressure just disappears. When feral used bears more, it was more heavily weighted towards bleed damage so still had some pressure when playing defensively.
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I know, but now bleeds suck its like, you used to be able to dot people up, kite them and theyâd die from bleeds or at least get lowâŚ
Defensively I can go bear forâŚoh wait no magic defenseâŚdoesnât matter its physical damage, let me just build up some rage to ironfurâŚbear form: 1 GCD haha, Mangle: 2 GCD haha Thrash 3 GCD haha. 3 GCDâs Huzzah! I can finally ironfur!
I guess iâll just use that one charge of SI nowâŚ
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This is one of the big problems feral has in pvp. Bear is supposed to be a defensive tool but our offensive pressure disappears when you go bear.
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Itâs cuz bleeds are a piss joke. A clever lie. Remember Cataclysm??
Keep ferocious bite/evis to rogues, and keep OP bleeds to feral.
But that wouldnât happen.
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bleed buff would be right step in direction
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Sabertooth GONE, dead, replaced.
Significant power shift away from bite towards bleeds.
Small buff to moment of clarity and feral frenzy so talons doesnât feel like âmust pickâ for those that donât like it. Revert blood talons to how it is on live for those that do.
Survival instincts 1 charge, 2 min CD.
Add some raid utility, dealerâs choice.
There, I just fixed feral.
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you forgot the bleeds buff but im just sad they only care about balance druids and resto , where is feral druid god damit all feedback i see is guardian ,resto and balance . Like they are showing playerbase they dont care at all
Yes yes, balance has been taken care of and ruined. I prefer they never took care of it, but now its too late.
So basically people want to play rogue? (bleed stuff)
No , people want rogue from mop not what it is now and ferals want what ferals were in mop simple , classes had unique abilites compare to now when rogue have everything in the game utility , selfheal (vial) cloak, evasion and feint . and feral lost alot ⌠what are todays afffinites was baseline,we are restricted it feels dull . while rogue indeed feels better . if we get what we had in mop abilites like savage roar, natures swiftness ,cyclone instant cast . treants? dont @me about ferals want to be rogues , just cause blizzard favors rogues more dosent mean feral wants to be rogue , druid was unique at its own way . Its easy to say âdruid is a wannabe rogueâ its true and not true . its true cause blizzard made it like this and its not true cause its not what it used to be .
and if the rogue thing is true then its time to make rogue bad and feral good since feral sucked in bfa only became good mid Eternal Palace . while rogue is still top in everything , pvp ,keys and raids etc .
im tired of people always hating on what spec i love to play and just cause blizzard gives 0 fks about my spec dosent mean im going to reroll cause blizzard said so.
Shadowlands is about unpruning right? so why not give us unique utility back and buff bleeds by 30% and we are good? its so simple
im playing druid feral since 2008 so i know guardian and feral really good when they used to be merged . i loved the split of the specs and in mop they felt at its best peaks what druid was meant to be not like now when ur nerfed left or right, its stupid.
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the most part I dislike about my feral is the talent tree.
especially row 90âŚ
it has pretty much 0 impact on single target but also the aoe options are weird.
I like the aoe bleed, but it feels so weird to constantly spam an aoe bleed that actually lasts 9s. Obviously we only spend cp on it because it still does more aoe then anything else we have, which is kind of sad 
Whole aoe situation all in all is very clunky anyways. I also wish we had a little more armor so not that a fart from a melee would wipe us away immediately
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Yeah but all I want is some utility and bleed buff and Iâm fine and revert shadowland changes (talking about survival instinct change)
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I set out with intentions to play feral at the start of BFA but it just wasnt viable when compared to balance and still hasnât been from my knowledge, especially for raiding. Why would I intentionally handicap myself in order to play a spec I enjoy, itâs such a shame that theyâve basically given up on the spec.
What a waste blizz.
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yeah blizzard needs to wake up
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