says the one posting on 7 different chars in same thread…
(https://check-pvp.fr/eu/Moonglade/Lolentin)
Dude bought a curve boost and is crying that the boss is hard.
Hilarious.
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Thats what blizz intended. Create difficulty and problems, sell the solution aka wow tokens so people buying boosts
Is it not obvious?
Says the lvl 10 char hiding behind his 1937392 alt
That is such a BS arguement.
Since Argus, Raszageth is the first boss where personal responsibility is extremely low. You cannot oneshot your whole group by failing a mechanic.
Raszageth is easy, it only require two basic things: Some dps and hps (lower than what was required for Sylvanas or Denathrius) and proper movement.
A gross oversimplification. Its a fight with many different phases, overlapping mechanics and significant damage and healing checks. So speaking in generalisations doesn’t cut it.
Just like every single other endgame boss since God knows when. Jailer had the same in p3. Slyvanas had the same in p2 and p3. Denathrius had it in p1 and p3. I think it is safe to say that we can generalize it.
Raz LFR is one of the hardest bossess i have seen since N’zoth LFR
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well you need to decide?
is boss now too hard or too easy because its boostable with afkers?
The boosters are usually top Mythic players that reached max ilvl and can outgear the fight by so much, that they can carry 4 to 7 extra persons
According to my guildmate you can apply to be a booster with about 90% logs, which are extremely far away from top mythic players. Heck even I can hit that bar and I’m mostly a casual.
No, you are omitting details and generalising. There are things that make these fights very different. So no, you can’t just generalise. That would be silly.
Good for you. So what? How is this relevant to whether this encounter is overtuned? Or looking for congratulations?
And what are those things? Because I do not see anything on Raszageth HC that would be entirely unique to that boss, that would make it hard.
Yeah you need dps and hps as the boss have both dps and hps checks, but it is rather clear from Febsterr’s logs that his guild is missing these checks by a large margin.
Also according to my experience in the last two expansion, these checks are not so overtuned as they were in previous bosses like Denathrius.
I saw the OP had bought one boost but I didn’t comment. I didn’t realise his other “pugs” were streamer carries.
Kinda makes sense when you check their logs for this week. I know hes fixated on the fact that a dps was called out for killing themselves with a corrupted phial. But in all honesty the OP died tons without pressing astral shift or going ghostwolf for a mechanic, healthpotting etc etc.
It’s a shame the whole premise of the thread started out as “qq guild disbanding” / “nerf hard boss” rather than “what concrete steps can we take to ensure success” because there are plenty.
I play this fight as a hunter and they are without doubt the squishiest class in the raid, bar none. The challenge for us very rapidly turned to “how do we survive” and not “how do we do moar deeps”. The sooner this lands with his raid group, the sooner they will kill it.
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Just because there;'s a ‘hotlink’ on your launcher doesnt mean its advertised and people still wont be aware of the forums because they simply dont care about the forums… lol
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Holy hell, hunters suffer enormously on this fight. We’ve got 2 of them and our druids always pay extra attention to them.
Quite the same experience here. We needed a few nights to figure out how to rotate heal and defensive cooldowns and once we were done with that (and people did not die in silly stuff) the boss was rather easy.
(We still wipe in it tho as people like to die due to the mentioned silly stuff)
I dont understand where your logic is coming from, because whatever happened in SL will scar wow’s reputation. That’s not rocket science. And so far we lack complete date because we cannot compare the seconth raid.
We will definitive results when it comes to those numbers when seconth tier has been out for a month or two.
12% is still veryl ow compared to old first raids of expansions.
He raided normall on day 1. It wasnt heroic. Curve is related to heroicc and thats what the comparrison that is being made.
And I can you rn that final fights on expansions pre SL where a joke compared to rasz final fight on normall
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Pull 1: First death: You died due to being A: Out of position and B: running to the wrong marker. Deciding to run left because you stood there (again due to being out of position) with the druid running towards star marker (as he was intended to) same as you (while you were supposed to run to purple. All the way on the other side). You also werent at 100% health, resulting in you eating not one but two bombs. Your druid only barely survived himself and only because he was actually healed up.
Second death: You were at 28% health when the bomb exploded. Your raid also failed to CC the sparks.
Pull 2: Yes you were at 80% health when the bomb exploded. You were also at the wrong spot. You were between Star and Orange while you were supposed to be at purple. Resulting in you eating the blast of Orange and Star as well. You also procced the Rogues cheat death with that.
Pull 3: You collided with a Warrior who had the opposite charge. Resulting in your demise.
Pull 4: Ignored because you called for a wipe when your Prot Warrior died.
Pull 5: You died due to the shield not breaking quickly enough. Thank your arms warrior for that. Death 2: Several Fulminating Charges on you.
Pull 6: Your raid failed the dps check by nearly nothing.
Pull 7: Lack of healing.
Pull 8: Failed to CC the sparks.
Pull 9: 4 dps dead. Shield didnt break.
Yeah im going to stop to look further at this point. Or even more indepth like checking when you used your healthstones and pots or what the rest of your guild did overall.
Me, and others, pointing out that the issue lies within your guild group is not about ego. Its us telling you how to fix it. Also i would be very quite with this assumption of yours considering you have belittled others yourself and play offended when people simply dont agree with you.
As i have stated.
Never claimed that nor implied that.
Which it is.
People have 4 difficulties to choose from. Thats very much accessible. You are not entitled to any kills.
Great. Your group is still currently doing mistakes preventing a kill it. You will eventually fix them or outgear the fight and then kill the boss just like you did in previous xpacs. Also Jailor was significantly harder than Raszageth.
Saying that people should look at their group and fix mistakes to achieve a kill is not rude. I dont have to sugarcoat it.
And look there. You belittling others. Quite the “toxic elitist” arent you.
Most Mythic guilds arent either. You take what you get.
Thats also how Mythic raiding is. What you refer to are the RWF guilds.
You were even informed by Deja about this. But this didnt suit your little narrative now did it?
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A: You outgear it the old fashioned way. With gear. With the Valor cap removal comming next reset.
B: You said it. Raz drops bad loot for most people and its Tier slot can appear in the vault even if you havent killed it. Hence why its ignored unlike other bosses in the past. You can get better or similar gear from other sources. So why waste progress on an end boss if you could just wait and get your gear somewhere else. Many Mythic guilds didnt bother with Raz for that precise reason. Now if Raz would drop the Grieftorch or the Council Trinket the story would be a completely different one.
And it isnt “gatekeeping heroic” as you put it. If you cant beat the end boss then you either wait til you have more gear or the encounter gets nerfed. Raz isnt complicated.
And your boost argument is also lacking. You know when the high peak of boosting was? During HFC. The amount of money people did at that time was unreal. You had boosters ramping up over 1k kills on archimonde.
People will always purchase boosts since it rules out having to deal with pugs or if they cant find a guild to avoid getting into a guild. And with the Personal loot system if you had enough money you could also semi guarantee yourself some nice loot with ViP.
Also this.
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