Liking your own post’s with your alt’s, all 10 of them posting in same thread , you have nothing worthly to say.
and its not required at all to play perfectly. Check my guild for example. Most dps are grey parsing all day and im confident we will kill it with the ilvl boost from the next 1-2id just fine.
Better a lot of unaivodable dmg that gets easier with gear progression than mechanics where 1-2 player decide about the fate of your whole raid and you have to go through 100 tries in a casual guild until everyone got the mechanic and actually knows how to handle it.
Almost like if WoW raiding forces people into M+ to outgear content then the current raid tuning is bad?
Just another awful take. Stop defending Blizzard´s awful current game design because it makes you feel smug that you are better than ppl who play a crappy version of Pokemon in an MMORPG.
Medium fish in a puddle mindset, pathetic.
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You can gather enough gear even from just the raid. The Valor upgrades are just the cherry on top next to the guaranteed crafting pieces. The final boss is harder and requires more coordination. Deal with it.
Ironic coming from you.
Bla bla bla. I love how you and the OP always preach about some sort of ego trip as to not having to admit that the issue lies with you. With the OP also doing a ego trip on his own.
So please answer me this if TBC was so easy why did it take 133 days (KT in TK) compared to 17 days in DF for a tier boss to be killed.
Love the way out of 33 likes the OP got 22 of them are his own chars…
I mean it is just the facts.
You keep talking about wanting a challenge? Want a challenge? Why on earth are you playing WoW PvE lol? Go play Dota 2, oh wait, you can´t because you would get owned, and your ego would not be able to take it.
Need to be a king in the game where people play pet battles and collect mounts roflmao
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Keep believing that.
I love it when you confirm what i just said about the irony of yours and your own personal ego trips.
Or your “fact” that you assume i dont play dota or other games.
It wont however change the actual fact that both you and the op are evidently incapable of accepting that the issue with the boss ultimately lies with you and your groups. And your “attacks” are very amusing i must say.
You still have not answered me and you mock others for forum PVP that is what you are doing with this trolling.
I found raz easier than many earlier Last bosses on heroic.
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why not do lfr then if you cba to wipe?
Haven’t you literally been complaing its too hard? But are now trying to make it sound like its not a challenge?
Isnt that a bit oxymornic?
I cant beat boss, tuned too much. You can beat boss with perservance and effort omegalul go play real game…
Just like you’re posting from a lvl 50 toon. Why do you think I’m posting from my main. Genius
Taking words out of context desperately trying to prove a point, forcing the borders of logic, from a lvl 13 toon, sure…I`ll take your critique mr. Annonimous 
Argument doesnt fly since i revealed my main ages ago.
There are shades of grey in this. Can’t really speak for the opening poster’s performance and that of their guild, but I can speak for mine as a bunch of fair competent raiders. We knock out the first 7 heroic bosses with ease, usually one-shot them (barring some silly mistakes but, hey, they happen, and often they are quite hilarious) and I genuinely find the trash more challenging. Then Raszageth. There are attempts where I have played almost perfectly. But then get to the phase with the circles pulsing out/knockback (can’t remember the name) and I get one shot, and quite often because of the previous phase (like the opposite charge one) I am out of cooldowns and healthstone/pot is also still on cooldown. So I’m dead unless, as I say, I bring my own pet healer. Turtle is the only hard defensive I have but I have a 3m-ish cooldown. My defensives will stop 20-30% of all damage but that still isn’t enough quite often when combined with other mechanics. See the fight is mechanically fine. And all you need to do is be a few DPS down and you’re not breaking that shield, or a healer down and you don’t have enough outgoing HPS to cover everyone in “challenging” phases. It’s not like there is a small difference in difficulty between the previous 7 bosses and Raz, it is cavernous.
It results in a level of frustration and people start to get irritated with each other because no one can see a way through this excreta show of an encounter. And if you are barely making progress then people eventually just tune out and give up. And the frustration often leads to them quitting the game. Not a good outcome, surely. I expect this level of roadblock with possibly needing 100s of attempts to perfect a fight in Mythic. But not the heroic end boss.
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There are no one shots unless huge misplays happen.
I know hunters are squishy but you’ve got your self heal, survival of the fittest and turtle. You also have a health pot.
The scariest part is the rings overlapping with other things. You should know when raid CD’s are going to happen so that should save your overlapping yours with those.
But if you map out “here I use turtle”, here survival of the fittest and so on you have a roadmap to get through the fight without screw ups.
Everyone took out the first 7 with ease. Doesn’t this really mean they were a bit undertuned?
Regardless, its all conjecture. I think the last boss should be hard, its probably 50-70 pulls for people pulling their weight and thats fine. Others disagree and I disagree with them.
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Well read what I wrote, I’ve described the situation. But sometimes mechanics are randomly on x targets. A lightning circle phase thing in phase 1 where I have to run out requires a turtle most likely. If I get it twice it will require a host of other cooldowns. Health potions, etc, get used situationally if I’m really low on health and I’m going to die. There may be a certain level of planning you need to do as a group, but sometimes you need to be reactive too - or you’ll die if someone else takes their eye off the ball. As I said, we’re not a mythic world first team. Nor are we LFR slouches. But I’m stating you the facts of the encounter as I see them.
And the first 7 are not strictly undertuned if you consider the ilvl they are intended to be played at - and we are overgeared for them because we have a lot of keen M+ers too. But Raszageth is intended to be in the same bracket, and even at 410ish, this is blatantly not true.
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Actually Blizz is using psychological tricks , making all prior bosses p**s easy, making you believe that you can do the last boss too
… and creating desire in the way of completion. Completion is a HUGE psychological motivator in life and especially in addictive video games
Then, under the mind set that “i did the prior 7,i can do the last”, you land on their treadmill trap of chasing serotonine from completion. Which might come but in most cases, it doesnt
Intermittent reward system is the most toxic and addictive psychological manipulation tactic there is.
well you have plenty of time to kill that last boss. considering that 10.1 wont be here till like june and we will likely see 10.0.7 with rings with extra dmg / edfense effects around march / april that should allow for that final push , there are at least like 15-20 moe GV with 415-421 gear and 418 craftable pieces for anyone who really wants to push …
ye anyone who wants to progress will progress there.
just take your time - maybe limit you raid to 1 night per week with just progress if you dont need gear from previous bosses anyway ?
Didn’t top guilds kill Mythic Raz on like 2nd week after release? There is no way if anyone who seriously raids would not clear HC by this time. Or you maybe play with people who think that a m+11 key is hard? I would prob enjoy raiding if it was 8 man like in FF but not gonna step in to wipe endlessly with 30 people.