Not relevant. Is not giving you rewards and also changes nothing for the vault. And you probably wiped. Otherwise you were in time.
Nothing. But you have to walk back. Do the pull again. Probably without the needed cooldowns. The idea is to not wipe.
What if the key is not 20 yet? Donāt need to beat the timer for those M+ 20 vault rewards then with that key?
Then donāt wipe?
I am timing up to +24ās and i never speed runned any dungeon in my life.
Where can I find you calling for Blizzard to remove the timer? I mean, it is just UI clutter right?
The timer serves the purpose of not waiting for Bloodlust for every pull. But every timer is very lenient till pretty high levels. You know it surves a purpose too. But not the purpose of being as fast as possible. When you go 1 pack at a time and coordinate some cooldowns you get way higher than +20ās without looking at the timer. It is really not the goal to time dungeons with 20 minutes in time. Just go slow, take your time, prepare for every pull, pack after pack. 1 minute in time. Well done.
not completely sure what your agenda is currentlyā¦
you have here 2 people that tell you the timer doesnāt matters.
You can ignore it and the finish the run in timeā¦
You can ignore it and not time it.
it does nothing to change the rewards at the end of the week.
And just to show you Iām not lying about rp walking:
My agenda is answering to ridiculous claims. There is literally a timer on screen that downgrades your key if you fail to make it in time. If you donāt have enough upgraded keys to fill out your vault your gear progression suffers. Itās a time attack game mode and you wonāt ever convince me otherwise.
Iām not saying the timer doesnāt exist ā¦
Iām just saying it is easy to ignore
A timer existing does not makes something speedrunning rush rush rush. Do you actually know how much time you WIN when you wait every pull a couple of seconds till everyone is ready? Rushing is something lowkey people who do not understand preparing for pulls, and actually losing so much time by everything going wrong because half the group was ready for the next pull.
Lets go wild. Add a 5 hour timer on a key. The timer exists, so it is speedrunning? I donāt think so. And the current timers are defined to not bloodlust every pull. But still very lenient.
So if someone needs a 10 minute break you wonāt mind right? You can all do some chores and the key will still upgradeā¦ right?
I have done 3 hour runs even. I donāt know what your problem is. The game does not stop when the timer is over.
Did your key upgrade or downgrade from that?
If you have the wrong people ā¦
As I saidā¦ Imho you need to find people that want chill runs.
then you do keys until you canāt upgrade anymoreā¦
There is no need for you to do +20.
It is totally fine if your High is +14 or whatever
Why is that suddenly relevant? When this key downgrades we play another key. Or we play the -1 key 
But the real question is; why did you wipe?
Itās not about what I need to reach but what the end game loop is. Itās time attacks as high as you can to get gear, to do even better time attack runs. That is WoW PvE now. Itās fine if you like that style but for me it has ruined the modern game.
Well i guess you never have done some higher keys, since that is the opposite of speedrunning. I suppose the fun of lowkeys is timing them with 15 minutes in time?
No you play for funā¦
that is how it should be.
if you donāt like the timer ignore it.
Do M+ until you donāt upgrade the Key anymore.
That is your level you should be the most comfortable until you can Upgrade the key again with better gear.
Did I mentioned the timer anywhere?
Itās just more fun to play games that are not about doing dungeons against the clock. Where I donāt need to compromise and look for some specific group of players because the whole gear progression is about that clock.
Then you do you 
But i play against the dungeon, not against any clock.
Have fun in your other game.
simply ignore the clock ā¦
that is all I say ā¦
Oh and find people that think like you.
If you PuG with Randoms that is on you