sorry … but please correct me if I understood wrong.
Casual Players should just roll over their Keyboard to clear content?
Where does this mindset come from?
If this is your interpretation of people who are very tryharding sweating doing everything they can to succeed then that is your interpretation.
Your mindset is all non orange logs on warcraft logs are people who are only rolling over they keyboard to clear content. In reality everyone is trying and 50 percentiles do also exist.
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I think they’re all too intent on trying to get the others to agree with them to notice your sensible suggestion. I’ve seen this one a few times before and I think it’s the right way forward.
Shame the devs are convinced they know what players want better than the players do.
Devs react to what players want!
in legion M+ players complained that they had to raid to get set gear … sets were removed.
In SL players complained that they want Set gear again… sets were added.
In SL PvP/M+ players complained again that they have to Raid for Set gear … blizzard added Catalyst …
Now PLayers can get everything they wanted if they put the effort in or wait for some time and players are still complaining. …
You can’t make it right for everyone …
Also no one forces anyone to complete +20 keys every week.
you clear what you are comfortable with or what you want to put effort in.
Highest Ilvl rewards from M+ are for players that put the effort in IMHO.
If there is even any effort to put in, because what i hear from Beta is that M+ is very much easier than currently.
Like a +16 is as easy as a +10
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I’m not complaining about being ‘forced’ to complete 20s.
I do that by choice.
That’s na argument. People are always forced to do whatever content rewards max rewards fot that week. This means every bad player will be now wasting you Time in 16-20 becasue its only way to unlock Max gv reward.
M+ will be Turner to horrible toxic only meta specs allowed experience.
Not playing meta ? Lol gtfo noob .
M+ is effectively dead just like raiding atm
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who forces you to do anything?
only yourself, because you think it is necessary …
M+ is still spamable …
M+ still rewards high gear at dungeon end chest …
M+ vault rewards are even higher.
Only the PuG scene might be bad … but that was always the case.
Just find a community to do runs. or find a guild or find friends …
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only thing that m+ is , is dead after this change goes live.
You’re not outskilling that, you need gear. It dealt more damage than I have in hp in +15 in those 2 hits and it deals this damage to everyone.
If you dispel it, it deals that damage. If you don’t dispel it, it deals that damage.
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That is a tuning issue.
and my comment was regarding raiding without the need of outgearing the content
Rofl, seeing how season 4 went I have doubts that it will be fixed before the season is almost over.
It is still beta afaik.
so there is still time.
of course it might not.
we don’t know.
… This has been said about previous betas as well and then they release them with lots of problems. Stuff that people voiced concerns about in the beta.
No reason to believe that it will be different this time around so far.
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As I said in my full comment:
Lmao./
they buffed M+ Loot, and gave us what we have demanded since SL Beta.
highten the key requirement. dont Nerf the loot
We have wanted this for years and ur saying its a disaster. BS Lol
going to be the best M+ Season to happen since Legion, people already check logs and more surroubnding +15s. no change there lol,
your QQIng without even knowing how hard the dungeons are going to be, u have no idea of the scaling or difficulty yet u think already going to be too hard. quit with the BS, its not a nerf, if u do M+15 u will get loot identical to the difference to Mythic level gear as u do now.
the difference is for those who want Mythic quality gear can now do it. this is no dmg to where u are currently in regards to the Mythic Raiders.
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It is a nerf depending on how difficult dungeons are going to be. To get lowest tier of Mythic lvl gear you will have to do +16 (almost +18 in SL due to increased scaling). They shouldve kept loot same as is now up to +15, and then add extra on top, instead of stretching it out.
As of current Beta data.
M+ is significant easier.
Like a beta +16 is as easy as a +10 on live.
The scaling “buff” was necessary
I did say it depends how it is on release, right now it is just speculations.
As someone that has tried m+ on the beta, no. I’ve tried both azure vault and ruby life pools on +15 in several groups. They’re definitely not as easy as +10 on live.
Great for M+ players, sucks for those of us that only did M+ because we “had to” for the vault. If anything this will punish more than it rewards and the disparity between M+ pushers and raiders that don’t will only grow. Suppose we’ll have to wait and see what it ends up being like, but I’m not holding my breath in excitement.
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