My prediction for DF M+ (A disaster)

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just saying this for logs

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I don’t understand, just because a +20 drops the best loot does not mean YOU HAVE TO DO IT.

The last bosses in mythic raids drop the highest ilvl gear and many of you are at peace with the fact you will never do them bosses and it is out of reach. You don’t have the time / patience / skill / guild (whatever reason) to do mythic raiding or just do the first few bosses.

Blizzard have buffed M+ loot to give people something to aim a little higher for and all I see is people crying about it. This content does not have a weekly lockout unlike raids so you can spam keys.

This is a small win imo and rather than the CONSTANT doom saying why not take it as such?

If you find 20’s difficult and can’t time them (or even finish)… do you deserve the reward from them?

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Have you tried any M+ on beta?

I have done a few and this statement is just plain false.

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No, he’s getting his information from “discord with beta players”:

Lol.

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I like the changes. I was a bit confused about the additional Valor upgrade tier but I finally understood it! :upside_down_face:

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In the last 3 expansions that answer was yes.

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Thundering affix in action:-

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Feels like this combined with quaking and smaller encounter areas will make it quite an unfun affix combination.

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Bear in mind it’s in testing but you get an idea of what they intend.

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Watching jayfisto’s stream is quite funny, especially on first boss in ruby life pools:

“I can’t see :poop:”, screen filled with swirlies and abilities from the boss and then the balls going off as well.

We skipped that affix when we tried the dungeons I did because of one guy called the affix a disaster, lol.

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Just what we needed. More arcade mechanics that 90 eprcent of people will fail .

This is MMORPG ffs.

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Yes you will have to do IT. Because if you wont you will be benched / repalaced by epople WHO will do IT weekly . Or you will be given lower priority on loot in raids because with no personal loot all guilds will go back to loot councils.

Baisckly if you wont push m+ you cannot Play neithed m+ nor RAID

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If you raid in a cutting edge guild you already know that this was going to happen …
Any casual guild will likely not have any problems with not running +20s …

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Ofc they will. When they will have to carry you just because you are to lazy to maximize gv rewards . Esoecially in first tier when every drops matters because its not filled by mythic gear from last tier. IT will hurt especialy peopel unlucky with weapons . Be unlucky with weapon drops for couple resets and you have bench almost guaranteed on progress.

The same thing happens every expansion because people have garbage memory and forget hwo brutal each tier always is due to that iniatial gearing problems.

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You are speaking in hyperbole. If you are a cutting edge raider then you will do 20’s with no issue regardless of what class or spec you are on. If you are not, then why do you need to do 20’s to get into your guild run?

Sounds like a problem with then guild you are in. Just because you are not doing a 20 does not mean you are not doing a 15 so it’s not like you are getting no gear at all. Why do you all act like it’s a 20 or nothing?? No, gear that is a few item levels lower is the reward not literally an empty slot.

Stop dooming and speaking about extremes. I still don’t see any downside to offering better rewards to M+ players like this.

How would you have it?
End game gear for doing a +15? lol

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Nah some players don’t want to work anymore …
login and get BiS is the premise

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Literally, so many people want to get the best gear in the game for little to no effort. The fact they can’t or it will not be as easy and they start to throw a fit.

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Literaly that’s The only reason majority Play the game. Take that away and those people will be instant gone. No point to Play untill late on expansion . Shame to see game dead just after launch just because toxic mythic raiders are the only ones catered to by Blizzard.

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Yes, you can still get upgrades but if you want better upgrades you need to do harder content??

You don’t need to do mythic raids to get 20’s done. I have not stepped foot in mythic raids on a few of my alts and have 20’s done on them no issues.

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Its basickly making game unplayable for average players just to cater to toxic 1 percent on top .

Shame that blizz caters to selfish toxic people liek you .

Another failed expansion like SL