Players will pretty much always choose the path of least resistance. Blizz shouldn’t reinforce mindsets like this, and instead should have just removed mage boosting. If you’re too lazy to level an alt, then you don’t deserve an alt.
I can’t believe what I’m saying is even controversial. I have no hope for modern games if these are the mindsets of modern gamers.
It’s not, but Blizzard wants as many players to play TBC as possible in order to do so they opened up the option to gain faster access to the content those players want to participate in.
Why should we forgo game integrity for tourists who may or may not even care for the game? People have had 2 ENTIRE YEARS to level a character for TBC.
Again, if it took a level boost to get you to play TBC then maybe you didn’t really want to play the game.
If you’re too lazy to level an alt, then you don’t deserve an alt.
This very well can be a game-rule so to say. A different rule: if you’re too lazy to lvl an alt, buy a boost, but pls level at least once to 60 1st. The rule blizz chooses is “if youre too lazy to level at all, buy lvl58 boost”. Id prefer a 2nd option, but other 2 also deserve to exist. Some rules you support, some do not, thats how it usually goes in many cases.
In this case, I do not need to “deserve(lol)” an alt, I have an option to boost and Im glad about it, thus voicing my support. If boost doesnt exist, I either go and “deserve” the alt or say f it, but thats a different story. After all, these circumstances allow a great portion of playerbase enjoy the game more, with very minor (imo) effects on the rest. And whats the game for if not for the enjoyment, right?
Ofc, the rules might be set up in a way that the game would be total crap eventually, thats for sure. Thats why we discuss stuff. I just dont think that this is the case atm
3 and 6 sound more like true wins to me
That is not up to you to decide Im afraid, you may have your opinion about it, but thats about it.
I understand that you dont like the boost, and that is 100% fine.
For some, the boost is a blessing. Especially thos who find leveling extremely tedious and a waste of time to achiev their goal, whatever that might be.
Again, you might have a completely different view on the matter, and thats is also 100% fine.
The matter of the fact is: as far as we know the boost will stay. Players will use it for different purposes, either for good or bad.
But you are in no position to dictate how other players should play the game, just as much as no one can dictate how you should play the game
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agreed (10 char?)
Please find me threads on here, reddit or other forums where prospective players were saying (before the official boost announcement) they really want to play TBC but don’t want to level.
Remind me, what level do Draenei/Belfs start? LEVEL ONE. Why? Because TBC starts at level 1.
Boosts would be “fine” if:
In other words the boosts would be fine if TBC was literally it’s own separate game. BUT IT ISN’T. TBC is an expansion on the base game, not a separate game.
How do you classify as prospective. Mb I fit the description?
Edit: didnt see the “before the announcement part”, nvm
I can’t, and I won’t.
Like I said, but you seem to ignore: It’s your opinion and you have every right to have that.
Maybe no one will use the boost as an opertunity to come back, but out of millions of existing and previous WoW players, one can only assume that there is a good ammount of players that will use the boost as a gateway back into TBC.
Sorry to tell you but this is possibly the cringiest post I’ve seen in these forums in a long while.
First of all, your definition of “win” is ridicilously incomplete.
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/win
Second of all, “pay-to-win games” or “p2w games” is a technical term used in online gaming. Obviously, anyone with a subpar level of intelligence would understand that you just don’t instantly win a game and hit the quit button by paying real money. Such a game would have no point, would it? It is called p2w because in these games you can gain a certain advantage over others that doesn’t pay as much as you do. Even the most famous “p2w games” like raid: shadow legends and such has no “win” button that you simply pay and win. You get some items, levels, gold or units with real money in those games. Actually, before moving on, you should try those, I’m sure you will like them a lot. In those games, everything(except cosmetics) are obtainable without paying, but you need to spend time on them contrary to just paying.
It is the same mechanic with paid level boosts in wow. If you pay, you skip a lot of things that you’d otherwise spend your own time on.
In addition, it opens the door for many abuses, like whales(who can spend an enormous money for them to make themselves an army of boosted characters) , botters who will be incentivized further with the boost. It will also worsen faction balance, class balance etc. If you think whales won’t be a thing in TBCC because of paid boosts - you have no idea of online gaming. I played a few p2w games and there was rich mofos that spent 10k+ euros for a few items even in the worst browser games.
We have argumented all of these on this and other threads yet pro-boost retailers try their best to respond to those points for the simple reason that their whole standpoint is about themselves and not about the game or the community. Check those threads.
You are hiding behind a low level retail character, which I’d say is a lot worse. Post on your main character to earn the credit.
There is nothing wrong with being endgame oriented for me as long as you work your way towards the end game yourself and not use your credit card in the process.
Well yes, there’s obviously a large amount of retailbabies bored of Shadowlands spoiled by a decade of level boosts who now won’t accept anything less
But thing is, had ActiBlizz not dangled the idea of level boosts over their heads, they probably woud’ve sucked up and just levelled from 1 in TBC.
Probably and most likely yes, but here we are.
Facepalm all you want but game integrity shouldn’t be forgone for retailplayers who most likely will get bored within a month or two, and then hop back to Shadowlands once the next patch drops or whatever.
And then what will they do next? Ask for more boosts while waving their wallet at Actiblizz.
The floodgates are open, the precedent is set. If boosts make it to TBC, i’m genuinely scared just thinking about what further monetisation Blizzard will try to shove into the game.
This does not seem to contradict what I said.
Don’t worry, I know my fair share of gaming cultures and ‘pay to win’ types. I’m not a fan of any of it, never have been, and I’ve been saddened to see games that I enjoy end up getting ruined by it. But ‘pay to win’ is, as you said, paying for an advantage. I still do not see an advantage in a simple catch up system. And whatever advantage that can be gathered from it - such as having multiple alts for profession cooldowns thanks to the boost - is negated by the fact that anyone tryhard enough to bother with that, will have no problem grinding their way to doing it without purchasing a boost. It remains pay for convenience, not advantage, to me.
Botting will happen with or without the boost. I do not see this changing anything, since they don’t get banned until people start spam reporting them which doesn’t happen until they actually go full fletched economy botting. As for the ‘whales’ making use of this; other than some type of profession advantage they can achieve (for which they would still need to level their profession and character further, and purchase a new account for every single boost), I do not see how this can be abused. Nor do I expect anyone to abuse this for professions, who hasn’t already prepared to do it the original way regardless. I know people are willing to spend thousands on games just for an advantage, but this is not an advantage to me.
I am not going to buy a boost myself. I know others that will, since classic did not interest them due to lack of endgame, but TBCC does.
Is this a more welcoming visage? I just post on my old retail main because it used to be my forum character. Also, context. It was questioned whether or not I had played prior to Cataclysm, despite my profile proving I had played since vanilla (achievements, to be precise). Classic characters don’t exactly have a profile.
And old, outdated content should not be a limiting factor to being able to play an expansion’s content. 1-60 is old content. TBCC is 60-70 and whatever that brings with it.
The facepalm is well deserverd as you make the assumption that people who play retail are a completely different breed of players that only play retail for specific reasons that you don’t share.
Fine, make that assumption. I just think it’s extremely childish and immature and does not belong in a gaming enviroment, but it seems to be the case.
Neither does paying to skip the game lmao
I know, you have stated this many times over.
For good reason. If people aren’t vocal about opposing the boost then you guys will just say “see nobody cares”.
Paying to skip classic, not TBCC. Important distinction.