If farmable mythic loot was available from higher keys I guarantee you there’d be a lot more focus on doing them early. If only to save crests.
I would like for them to split the game modes, just like they did with PVP and PVE…
This would mean M+ players can just do the content they like without having to rely on vault or raiding to not fall behind Mythic raiders in M+… And it wouldn’t hurt the Mythic Raiders as the gear could be “This item scales to Mythic track in Mythic Dungeons” otherwise it’s a “low ilvl” item
How would crests work in this situation though? Does a M+ item still let you save on upgrading a raid item? Or do you need 2x the crests to play both pieces of content, as well as 2x the gear?
What about tier / catalyst charges?
I would be very happy not having to need the catalyst as an M+ player. It can be a transmog thing. I am still running 2 champion pieces just because i am out of charges. Just because the items i catalysted i also got dropped in the vault and had to catalyst again. I still didnt got 1 tier item this season from the vault. Duck tier sets.
1 Like
No there wont be since they are too hard and release later. The race is already almost done when M+ is out. Remember we M+ players have not only much harder content we also get worst mythtrack loot. Only 4 item levels above where the herioc crests cap out.
The mythic + racce is on other hand a marathon, not a sprint like raid.
Would probably require a bigger overhaul of how the gearing works.
I’m not a game designer, but I would try and scale it to the level it is at today. Or maybe make the raiding like PVP… Once the item drops it is at full level, but its only “Mythic” in Raids.
If you want to use it in M+ you would have to use your crests earned through M+ like PVP’ers have to with their conquest gear.
This means for raiders, the gear earned in raids will be better than the gear M+ players bring in, but for M+ players there wouldn’t be the need to feel “forced” or “behind” if you aren’t raiding
Staggered release was for this tier only. We’re back to simultaneous next time.
Also the rwf are not the only raiders that matter. Raiding is FAR from over by the end of the second or third week, at which point we did have 12s and 13s timed and on the leaderboards even pre nerf.
2 Likes
Conquest doesn’t work like crest upgrades. It’s a currency to buy items. Crests increase the PvE ilvl of PvP items, but they’re always max ilvl in PvP.
Please Name 1 dungeon that was at its highest timed run more difficult than Release Tindral, fallen avatar or Halondrus. I will wait.
1 Like
Just like I said?.. If you want to use it in M+ you would have to use crests earned in M+ ? Don’t really see your point here
I feel this so much lmao. I’m in the EXACT same situation. Vault is basically just trolling.
I also of course DO have hero track versions in my bag. But am i going to use the next catalyst charge on it? Or am i gambling i will get an item in the vault?
It is just so damn crap this system. Or we need way more charges.
1 Like
dont think that 11 as 10 gives vault, but some 12~14 should
Just cap both then. Keep raiding items out of M+ and M+ items out of raiding. Just like PVP.
Then you would create a barrier of entry for either mode, convoluted and not fun.
We M+ players have that already for some expansions. That’s why we have those topics coming up all the time.
I’m currently just waiting for the vault tbh because hero items are, imo, barely worth catalyzing+upgrading at this point. At least until to the point where I have an abundance of charges, which will take a while because of “ololol once every 2 weeks”.
I actually despite the charge and vault system and even crest system. It’s way too limiting and needs an unnecessary amount of planning ahead and probability calculations in order to not waste charges/crests.
Unintentionally upgraded a hero item to 5 instead of 4? Well, you’re down 15 crests you’ll never be able to recover (unless they remove the crest cap again mid season).
Same with crafted items. Crafted a weapon (for example) and got a myth weapon from the next vault? Well, now you’re down 90 crests you’ll never be able to recover.
This whole timegating system is so infuriating to play I can’t express my dissatisfaction by just using words…
1 Like
i name you none.
because its always ilvl issue and stamina not the boss being hard lmao
getting hit by aoe for 1/2 hp vs 1/4 is not “skilled”
this is why we need mythic track gear in m+ content
so the wannabe elitists who raid and think they are some hot shot (youre not. youre just a pawn for your raid leader) get off their high horse
1 Like
How may i ascend to be an actual elitist instead of a wannabe elitist?
Uhh, okay? I mean: there is not a single key that was more difficult than Release Tindral. Let alone a final boss.
Oh and btw: I believe I know more about mythic raiding and high m+ than most on the forum. So get off your high horse and have a friendly conversation.