Who knows? Would certainly be a nicer explanation than plain old racism.
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They did mention also in Dark mirror that her beauty was a rare one and even Kaelâthas was said to have sought her hand in marriage. I could see Lorâthemar having a thing for her only to see her fall for a human just like her sisters.
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Oh, I forgot about this one.
Anyway, I think you all have a point by saying that Lorâthemar is biased and not objective, because there has been bad blood between them when they were both alive. And I hope you are right, because the pessimist side of me thinks they made Lorâthemar say that just to demonize Nathanosâ character even more.
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Thatâs the most probable case.
Lorâthemars character in BfA has been shamelessly used to voice what writers want players to feel regarding any/all parts of the story. Regarding Baine, regarding Jaina/the truce, regarding Calia, and now regarding Nathanos.
Itâs like they are leaning on him because they think his reputation and credibility may be enough for players to be convinced by whatever he says.
And may be oblivious to the fact that this sort of meddling, could end up backfiring and harm his characterisation.
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I mean tbh the first thing that comes to my mind is that he died on purpose to get to the Shadowlands (Sylavanasâ plan) ⊠But who knows
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Very well said, agreed.Lorâthemar is one of the few remaining horde characters thatâs left, who actually feels like aâŠnormal character? Not butchered yet, atleast.
They choose to focus him, telling the narrative from his mouth.Because they know players wouldnât take it seriously if a character like Baine said that stuff.This is bad for character.
I mean, what a shocker it would be right.
Nathanos, the character thatâs likely a self-insert by a blizzard staff , surely wouldnât die as a world boss in next expac, just after he got a nice model update too.Surely, there would be a cheesy cinematic he and Sylvanas involved would play before his death, in the shadowlands.Surely we will see him again.Canât get rid of him this easly.
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I actually want that 
Maybe them remembering the past when they were both alive, ending with a kissy kiss⊠Iâm a hopeless romantic I know, but seriously now, I would expect them to wrap up their story in a way before one of them dies.
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How predictible.
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Iâm old what to do 
Getting a bit senile 
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Poor guy, right? Dragged into a bloody war when all he ever really wanted is write poetry!
I agree. And they donât seem to understand that making him say things like "Baine represents the best in the horde " doesnât make people like Baine more, but instead makes them like Lorâthemar less.
I dunno man but if Iâd make a character a self insert, I surely wouldnât give them the treatment Nathanos got in bfa. I mean seriously, a character who 90% of the playerbase hates, who is effectively only Sylvanas lapdog, shows signs of disagreement with her from time to time but never actually acts on it, and in the end, is rejected even by her and abandoned to dieâŠ
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The more you think about it, the more obvious it seems, right?
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Which seems off because Lorâthemar doesnât seem like a character that would tolerate the likes of the Baine, after all he has been through.If no one is happy with Baine, making Lorâthemar say that stuff doesnât help with anything.If anything, it makes Lorâthemar seem like he is out of character, like you said.So I am annoyed that they choose to use Lorâthemar for this ââtaskââ, after practically butchering many horde characters before him in similar fashion.
Hope he doesnât turn into a meme-character eventually like Green-Jesus Thrall became, due to this kind of weird writing style they choose.
To me It always seemed like a form ofâŠmasochism. Maybe itâs his thing? Who knows.
Indeed.Not much room for the suprises.
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The devs seem to tend to use characters to move story where they need, rather than make characters do what characters should do (based on what we know about them).
Lorâthemar is supposedly a rather smart person. So, logically, I think he should be very careful with Calia. Somebody with connections to the alliance appears, and might be viewed as a potential leader. Yet, he somehow ignores all the alliance-horde conflicts of the past and made to be happy with influence from the character who is one of closest friends of Jaina and Anduin.
And completely ignore what would that Caliaâs sudden claim (if it ever happens) could validate Alleriaâs sudden claim if she ever decide during another cataclysm-alike event to make some kind of lucrative suggestion to his people.
Was he portrayed as a character who could be blind to such parallels? I do not think so. But we have what we have.
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Well said, it often feels unorganic.That often makes the consistency of characters suffer, then whole story suffer due to that.
Writing a consistent characters with a relatable and interesting story might not be an easy task, but I think they got the resources.They were a much smaller company when they nailed the WCIII storyline, told the story through the game while not forcing the narrative down our throats.
How they went to WoD time travels & current BfA levels of writing and storytelling from that WCIII standartsâŠinteresting.I get the game types are different, but it shouldnât be the excuse for this kind of bad writing and low standarts.
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Lokâthemar - here this seems more accurate.
https://preview.redd.it/oqp38q0r5eq11.jpg?auto=webp&s=ef8797d292ae60ac2db6406fbc705c459732865d
Should have died in this occasion 
It was so obnoxious.
But Iâm content that theyâre somewhat fixing the abysmal ârevengeâ plot from 8.1, that from what I can read on this thread, some actual keyboard lobsters are agreeing that it was, in fact, revenge.
I donât particularly like this Nathanos, most especially I donât like how he was used.
https://wow.gamepedia.com/Nathanos_Blightcaller#/media/File:Nathanos_Blightcaller_TCG.jpg
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/wowpedia/images/7/70/Order_Must_Be_Restored.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/1280?cb=20130505072847
This was the real badass. So much better than the Team Rocket human dude, youâll be missed!
Obviously, being a fabled Team Rocket character weâll be having him some more in Shadowlands as everyone already pointed out. My hope is that he starts on a path towards screwing over Sylvanas, instead of dying again like a Season 8 Jaime Lannister.
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That can happen with 3 conditions:
- Sylvanas is so pissed at him she abandons him in the Maw, I find that unlikely tbh.
- We somehow get to save him (which nobody seems to want to do atm) from the Maw and after suffering there without her protection he realizes he doesnât want to be part of her schemes again.
- Sylvanas is set to go down as a villain which I highly doubt at this point. As much as people hate to hear that she is set for redemption.
Reasons why I think sheâs set for redemption and her fate is sealed in Shadowlands:
- Her lines in all the cinematics point at her âsaving usâ from a greater evil
- Her character got a new look, I think a Maw covenant in a later patch which she will lead
- Her popularity among players will create a huge outcry if she goes down as pure evil
I would sacrifice Sylvanas if that meant Nathanos comes back to the Forsaken. To me that still beats the hell out of losing them both. Also could be a life changing experience for Nathanos, his time spent in the Maw would give him an interesting development.
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That moment when you graduate from college with a degree in Modern Literature, but youâre neck-deep in debt while also having obtained 0 writing skills from your higher education so youâre forced into below-minimum wage slave work as a story intern at Activision Blizzard.
I would give them my ideas for free if it improved the game lore at least a little bit. Not saying that my ideas are any better though
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Except you have to provide valid authentication that youâre a complete hack as far as writing is concerned. Hiring actually talented authors and giving them the opportunity to write a good story? We donât do that here.
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