New customization options for blood elves and void elves

[Syleenia-argent-dawn]

@Vanalia-sylvanas

Well that your opinion and I respect that, but my opinion is still the same.

And that is fine.

[Seracia-draenor]

I wish it was the end but we both know it wont end… it will keep going on it has for 14 years ever since horde got the race alliance wanted. So these topics will keep popping up until alliance gets what they want Haircolors and skincolors wont be the end…after that people will start demanding more and more until they want blizzard to change void elves names to high elves.

[Syleenia-argent-dawn]

The only thing we ask for is Normal hair colors and hairstyles and IF blizz feels like it Tattoos and feathers (But you can do that for both races)

[Vanerion-argent-dawn (Vanerion)]

@Dainara-draenor

And the High Elves who call themselves Void Elves no longer call themselves High Elves.

This is true. The new options, however, will include high elf features, most likely because they represent new elves studying the void without going through the transformation the first void elves went through. These ones might be playable as Alliance high elves, even though they may have some void themed abilities.

@Dainara-draenor

In fact I wonder if we could petition Blizzard for a Quel’Dorei steed along with some High Elven defectors to reinforce this fantasy.

Go ahead. Horde high elves are called blood elves, though. Even with blue eyes. It’s established lore.

@Seracia-draenor

So blood elves that renamed themselfs arent high elves to you guys but VOID elves that also techically are renamed are ?

See explanation above.

@Korrina-the-shatar

Void elves were a compromise, but still not enough.

Void elves were originally not a compromise, but their own cool thing. High elf options added in void elves is a compromise, but only if done right.

@Korrina-the-shatar

Drawing the line where we are at now seems more and more reasonable to me, because it’s seems clear that giving in to high elf fans demands will only bring forth more demands.

Slippery slope? Will a man marry his dog next?

@Seracia-draenor

So these topics will keep popping up until alliance gets what they want

Probably, yeah.

Most of the races in this game have access to blonde, brown, ginger and black hair colours. It’s really not a blood elf exclusive thing. Blood elf heritage armour, elven paladins, Thalassian demon hunters, these are all blood elf exclusive things. A bunch of the new cosmetic options will remain blood elf esclusive. Golden dragonhawks, blood elf specific hawkstriders, Silvermoon city, Horde specific armour and more, are Horde exclusive things that won’t be available for Alliance high or void elves. Far more than a few mere hair colours that one already can find in most other races.

[Paxmillian-argent-dawn]

@Vanerion-argent-dawn

@Paxmillian-argent-dawn

But where people start suggesting they should be not only a “new void elf look” but “high elves in their own right” you begin taking away from both the velf unique narrative and the belf one to simply retell the same stories on alliance but replace “red” with “blue”.

Blizzard is already doing this. And the stories are different on each side. And this is what we want to see playable.

What specifically are you referring to here when you say we’re seeing this already?

[Vanerion-argent-dawn (Vanerion)]

@Paxmillian-argent-dawn

What specifically are you referring to here when you say we’re seeing this already?

High elf stories in the Alliance versus blood elf stories in the Horde. There are of course more blood elf stories, seeing as there are about nine times as many blood elves as high elves. But we have high elves in the Alliance, and we want to play them.

[Vanalia-sylvanas]

I counted the Number of High elf NPC’s I saw in Azeroth.

But keep in mind, NPC don’t equal the number of population. Like obviously they are not gonna show a whole population ingame, same goes to any other race. One example is that they only showed 1 NPC in theramore, but there is obviously more. And I’m counting her in because there is no evidence to show she died. Some of the citizens were evacuated from Theramore. Anyway let’s start.

Also I might have missed a few places. Obviously I can’t explore the whole of Azeroth. But these are the ones I visited.

Dalaran: about 55
Ice crown: about 26
Party Boat thousand needles: about 22
Quel’Danil: 13
Allerian Stronghold: 12
Thunder, Pandaria: 9
Stormwind: +6
Suramar: +4 (Silver covenant)
Telogrus: +3
Hunter Artifact room: 2
Mage Artifact room: ?
Theramore: 1
Ghostlands: 1 (Alleria’s High elf Ranger)
Boralus: 1
Eastern Plaguelands: about 1

[Leerena-aerie-peak]

See there’s still are a lot of High Elves around

[Syleenia-argent-dawn]

@Leerena-aerie-peak

See there’s still are a lot of High Elves around

So it’s normal for us to ask for normal hairstyles and hair colors from the alliance.

[Leerena-aerie-peak]

I think for now people should only ask for hair colors not hair styles or things like that.

[Syleenia-argent-dawn]

@Leerena-aerie-peak

I think for now people should only ask for hair colors not hair styles or things like that.

I mean sure Hairstyles can come later.

[Vanerion-argent-dawn (Vanerion)]

@Syleenia-argent-dawn

I mean sure Hairstyles can come later.

They can, but I’d really prefer they came sooner. =p I’m so ready for my high elf now!

[Syleenia-argent-dawn]

@Vanerion-argent-dawn

They can, but I’d really prefer they came sooner. =p I’m so ready for my high elf now!

Ofcourse but yeaa…

[Leerena-aerie-peak]

I understand that, but this is the reason why some Blood elf fans are against these high elf options. They know fans will want even more and more and will never stop until the race is renamed High Elves. I understand that you don’t mean it that way but at the end of the day begging for more and more is only going to anger more Blood Elf fans and Blizzard won’t add anything anymore in the end and I’m sure you don’t want that. You will get and skin, eye and most likely hair colors= so you look like a High Elf. I think it’s kind of ignorant to request even more and more besides hair colors when allied races aren’t supposed to get anything fresh and new. And I don’t mean to say anything bad but I’m stating the facts.

Edit: more hair styles, void options (skin and hair colors)etc. will come later when allied races will have their turn, right now the core races have theirs.

[Syleenia-argent-dawn]

@Leerena-aerie-peak

Edit: more hair styles, void options (skin and hair colors)etc. will come later when allied races will have their turn, right now the core races have theirs.

And we understand that but we kinda hope that we get natural hair colors before the pre-patch even if it’s not happening. And there is nothing wrong with hoping If I may add.

[Leerena-aerie-peak]

I was saying in terms of new void skin and hair colors. Natural hair colors could come soon. But I’m just saying for now that’s what you should be requesting for. Not new hairstyles and braids and to change the void form to an arcane look.

[Syleenia-argent-dawn]

@Leerena-aerie-peak

I was saying in terms of new void skin and hair colors. Natural hair colors could come soon. But I’m just saying for now that’s what you should be requesting for. Not new hairstyles and braids and to change the void form to an arcane look.

And I agree. But you cant blame us for some wishfully thinking ^^…

[Leerena-aerie-peak]

Of course not. But I’m just saying that requesting even more and more will anger the blood elf fans and then blizzard won’t add any high elf options for Void elves anymore. At least not at the moment is the time to request even more and more. Hair colors should be enough until allied races will get new fresh options.

[Brigante-argent-dawn (Brigante)]

@Syleenia-argent-dawn

And still they high elves who are in the alliance still call them self high elves.

Just a fun fact here. The entire race of Quel’thalas was renamed ‘Blood Elves’ after the Scourge invasion, by the legitimate ruler of the nation. Yes, even Vereesa was for a short time, a Blood Elf, however shortly afterwards, 10% of the survivors refused to learn the technique of draining mana from living creatures because it was evil (Vast hypocrisy given that High Elves are not vegan, but we’ll let that go)

So for a brief time, between Scourge invasion and Mana draining, they were -all- Blood Elves. Doesn’t matter where they were living at the time, the decree was universal.

Just a fun face for y’all there.

They don’t ‘still’ call themselves High Elves. They Renamed themselves -back- to calling themselves High Elves, after being Blood Elves.

@Syleenia-argent-dawn

There is no double standards because lore wise High elves are in the alliance.

No, 90% of that species call themselves Blood Elves and are in the Horde.

@Korrina-the-shatar

I love it how you say “Just this” and then add a few other things to the list. This is always the way it goes. Void elves were a compromise, but still not enough. Skin colours are a compromise, but still not enough for some. Now it’s hair colours, which then it’s not going to be enough. And then after that, something else will come up for sure.

This is the essential problem. a Line needs to be drawn. Personally I’d be fine with them getting normal hair colours and styles. But that isn’t what some pro-High elf people want. They don’t just want to look like a High Elf. They want new appearances for their racial (which like, no other race even core ones get) Oh, and some extra customisation would be nice, stuff that the core race doesn’t get, and then you get some who go “Oh, and Paladins” as if Paladins were a High Elf thing! There have been what, four of them ever? The mass utilisation of Paladins in warfare is -definitely- a Blood Elf- thing and not a High Elf thing, for goodness sake, the Blood Elves are, apart from the Draenei that expressly weaponised the concept! (The Silver Hand were few and scattered, not in core units together as such). Then some want the option to choose to see their race as ‘High Elf’ and not Void Elf on the screen.

Seriously!

I’m a Roleplayer, have been for more than 30 years, and this is seriously some people’s sticking point? “Can’t be having it saying Void elf on my log in screen, I need the option for it to say High Elf”

If you’re not roleplaying then what do you care? If you -are- Roleplaying then you know how this gig works, suspension of disbelief. You -know- you’re playing a character and are not -actually- your character! The Stanislavsy method of acting does not work when talking about pixels that are inches tall!

It -doesn’t…matter- whether your race name is listed as ‘Void Elf’ and not ‘High Elf’. Thats not a roleplay element, thats not even a gameplay element, its completely irrelevant. Yet people still say that because the name is ‘Void Elf’ they will keep campaigning for playable High Elves.

This is the precise point where even people like myself, who was always chill about it “Yeah, give them High Elves, no problem, Blood Elf model, hair, blue eyes, you got it” Someone who, no actually, to hells with modesty, actually put more care, attention and thought into how High Elves could be implemented despite having no desire to play one, than every person who just posted going “High Elves Please”, this is the point where enough is enough.

Draw a line.

Tell us what is enough to silence this all. Come to a consensus, as right now the High Elf fans wants and desires range from the utterly reasonable, to the borderline insane.

No, don’t tell us here. Given that this thread has been utterly derailed, because it really isn’t about Blood Elves and Void Elves anymore, but is about High Elves, as usual. There is, I understand, a High Elf discord. Have the discussion there, and work out collectively a coherent and defined list of ‘demands’, Then come back here and make it known, because right now its just a mess of “I Want this” “Oh, and that” “and That would be neat as well”.

Thats where you lose the crowd. Thats where even people like me, who was always ambivalent but supportive go “No, really, some of these people are nuts”

Work out what you want, before you ask for it, or you just end up sounding like Classic fans, and lets face it, they are never satisfied are they?

[Syleenia-argent-dawn]

@Brigante-argent-dawn

No, 90% of that species call themselves Blood Elves and are in the Horde.

@Brigante-argent-dawn

Just a fun fact here. The entire race of Quel’thalas was renamed ‘Blood Elves’ after the Scourge invasion, by the legitimate ruler of the nation. Yes, even Vereesa was for a short time, a Blood Elf, however shortly afterwards, 10% of the survivors refused to learn the technique of draining mana from living creatures because it was evil (Vast hypocrisy given that High Elves are not vegan, but we’ll let that go)

So for a brief time, between Scourge invasion and Mana draining, they were -all- Blood Elves. Doesn’t matter where they were living at the time, the decree was universal.

Just a fun face for y’all there.

They don’t ‘still’ call themselves High Elves. They Renamed themselves -back- to calling themselves High Elves, after being Blood Elves.

That does not mean there are no high elves in the alliance.