New customization options for blood elves and void elves

Retconning the whole lore, so that blood elves were never a thing, and high elves were always in the alliance.

You know that is literally what I typed, right? Some of those people who were High Elves, who named themselves Blood Elves, then renamed themselves High Elves when they went to join the Alliance.

Yeah, any Chucklehead who wants that can a) read up on some real world mythology, and b) Do one. :stuck_out_tongue:

And we want to play as those people Well they might have taken on the studies of the void but that means they are still partly high elves.

Edit: I would love to have the name high elf and a arcane racial but I know it’s not happening.

Everyone else here: Hyped about the high elves.
Me: WhOoOoO eLvEs WiTh BlUe HaIr

I don’t disagree, but those kind of threads seems to be going back to the time when blood elves were first added to the game, so it’s safe to assume this is what they really want.

I still hope we will get normal hair colors tho but it can also come in the future. But wishful thinking before the pre-patch xD… And thats why I suggest KT hair colors.

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What are these stories specifically.

I know some silver covenant stuff has been played out but to my recollection the alliance does not engage in any quests that tell us the current state of the high elf body in the Alliance. It’s typically individuals and their situation.

For example we have no idea if they have another city or want one.
We have no idea of whether they have a leadership in place or how it is structured.
We have no idea about their general thoughts regarding the fourth war.

What we know is what some high elves individuals think, and we know what some neutral facing high elf organisations think of things (Silver Cov) but as for these “high elves in the alliance” we have no idea what their story is and where it is headed because the game has told us extremely little, because that story is the blood elf story.

Beyond the shared history with belf, and the incidences of a lodge or two , what is the high elf story in WoW since vanilla? Note: I’m talking about those in the alliance formerly- NOT the Silver Covenant.

I just don’t see it. I’m open to being wrong, but as said I want specific examples. I do not believe there are any current developments on the high elven race within the alliance formerly that serve as a way to distinguish them from blood elves. Pretty much all of their entries are “belf did, so we did”.

Where’s the rest?

Now void elves, who have been in the game 5 minutes, have the whole harnessing the void, exile from Silvermoon, Dar’khans treachery, defiling Zandalari creatures to call on. It makes so much more sense to just tack the remaining high elves into this narrative, saying they’ve formerly aligned with the void elf body politic, than it does to do anything else. Just my opinion of course.

For blizzard to present a distinct alliance high elf story that differs from belf they’d have to invent it first because it sure as heck isn’t in game and hasn’t been since vanilla beyond “we like alliance”. The Pandaren show us how it goes when you can only really explore that angle because you share core racial themes with an opposite: you get NOTHING.

I think she knows that and everyone knows that. But it’s Blizzard’s fault for making “High elves” seem like their own race. The NPC’s have a different Voice than the Blood elves. The High elves NPC’s use the Night elf voice but without the “Ishnu alah”. I guess blizzard was kinda lazy there.
And even Elisande during the Suramar campaign refers to the Sin’dorei and Quel’dorei as two separate people.

At the end of the day they are the same race, Thalassians (including Void elves) but I just thought it’s something important to note. It’s not her fault for thinking it’s a race of its own, Blizzard kinda made it seem that way.

So by Blizzard’s logic, yes majority of the “High elves” are either Neutral or on the Alliance, while only a few returned back to Silvermoon.

I have personally counted the number of High elf NPC’s I saw in Azeroth (I’m talking about the ones that call themselves High elf) and this is what I found.

Old Dalaran: about 55
Ice crown: about 26
Party Boat thousand needles: about 22
Quel’Danil: 13
Allerian Stronghold: 12
Thunder, Pandaria: 9
Stormwind: +6
Suramar: +4 (Silver covenant)
Telogrus: +3
Hunter Artifact room: 2
Mage Artifact room: ?
Theramore: 1
Ghostlands: 1 (Alleria’s High elf Ranger)
Boralus: 1
Eastern Plaguelands: about 1

I’m not implying anything, I was just bored and decided to do this. That’s how boring BFA is currently. :rofl:

I don’t agree with this. Nor do I agree with changing the racial. That’s only the dream of a few High elf fans but Blizzard would NEVER do it. I’m being realistic here. Nor would I want them to do it. Void elves have a unique racial to them which makes them unique

I think that’s the problem. Many High elf fans want different things.

Some of us are happy with the customizations we are given in Beta and wouldn’t want to see anything more (I fall under this opinion)

Some are happy but would like to see a few more natural hairstyles “to make it complete”. Many on the Discord have this opinion. Syleenia (the night elf you are arguing with) has a dream to role play a brown haired High elf.

While the minority actually want for a change of racial and change of name.

So basically “you can’t make everyone happy” but it’s best if we let Blizzard decide, and whatever they decide I’ll be ok with it.

1 Being racist against Blood Elves wherever they go.
2 Being oddly inconsistent in their views regarding dangerous magical practices and diets.
3 Being trophy wives to their human companions.

That about sums up the High Elven narrative of past, present and future.

Blizzard did quite the opposite of making them seem like their own race.

Quite the contrary, they reused the Blood Elven model for all High Elves, even those introduced to us in vanilla. They put in an NPC in Allerian Stronghold telling us that the two look exactly the same, act exactly the same with the NPC having to tell us directly that they are not a Blood Elf.

Elisande may have divided the two, but essentially says the same thing about both of them. The only difference is that she thought the Blood Elves would have understood her decision, the Nightborne’s plight. But at the end, she tells the High Elves that they dillute their blood by mingling with lesser races, and she tells the Blood Elves that instead they chose to ally with monsters.

Basically saying the same to both, that they chose lower races over their more nobler kin (The Nightborne).

1 Blood elves are even worse they are racists to everyone.
2. They overcome their magical addictions where the blood elves were consumed by it and needed saving by a alliance race.
3 Lots of high elves are with high elves the only high elves we know of are the windrunner sisters who married or dated human men.

Not every High elf is like that. Just the Windrunner sisters. And prince Kael Thas (now a blood elf) was in love with Jaina at one point. But majority of them are a bit racist in the past, and loved their own race only.

Until the invasion And 90% of thier people died, and they changed their opinion a bit.

Even Valeera (a Blood elf) loves a Human. It’s just the MMO stereotype. Even happens in Lord of the Rings where the elf lady falls in love with a half human half Dwarf.

They are not inconsistent in their views regarding magical practices and diets. But they are not a united front on that. The Quel’lithien High Elves hated the Blood Elves for the take-mana-from-living-beings-technique, the Silver Covenant hates the Blood Elves for allying with the Horde, which in itself is stupid considering why the Blood Elves joined the Horde in the first place (hint: they had no choice in the matter), and Quel’danil… don’t know, they just don’t care and do not practice magic anymore anyway.

But the Silver Covenant is highly inconsistent in and by itself, Vereesa more so. Her personality is swinging wildly from one extreme spectrum to the other, she either hopes for the demise of all Blood Elves and takes every opportunity to insult them, and the next she hopes that they redeem themselves by rejoining the Alliance.

It is a clear case of a race that lacks character, lacks identity so to speak. They have no opinions or ideology that keeps them united, and makes them a noteworthy race so to speak. They are just there as NPC fodder, and can’t really be anything other than that, because the role they would otherwise fill is already filled by the Blood Elves.

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This is what i mean

1 is defined entirely by the enemy. Yawn. Pandarengate

2 is their old lore, what about the past 15 years? You can’t have a race riding the coattails of a yonks old difference that no longer applies as the entirety of their racial theme.

3 is individual behaviours

What is the distinctive helf alliance lore beyond “likes alliance” that makes them so different from belf? And if it exists, why is it a superior story to tell than the velf one?

Hence: look like a Helf, but you’re a velf, from me.

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As a matter of fact, they did not need saving.
This was a part of Velen’s and the naaru’s plan all along. The Blood Elves did not desperately need the Sunwell, it is a nice addition, but they did not need it to thrive and survive, they had other methods of doing so. Besides, remember that the Blood Elves themselves chose to fight their prince, willingly chose to fight the Legion he sought to bring into the world. They fought equally with that “Alliance race”. Where was the High Elves?

Nah. If anything it is the opposite.

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Busy sitting in Dalaran or Stormwind munching on mana crystals to sate their magical addiction.

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I diagree with you there sorry the blood elves are a spoiled race. And they only joined the horde out of convenience. But they talk bad about them behind their backs.

That is what you call blizzard.

[Citation needed]

To be fair we didn’t see many High elves in burning Crusade at all. The ones in Outland (Allerian stronghold) are about 12 people (I counted the NPC’s.).

And then in Wrath suddenly we see this army (Silver covenant) being active in Ice crown and trying to help the best they can. Here is where they started being relevant and active.