Retconning the whole lore, so that blood elves were never a thing, and high elves were always in the alliance.
You know that is literally what I typed, right? Some of those people who were High Elves, who named themselves Blood Elves, then renamed themselves High Elves when they went to join the Alliance.
Yeah, any Chucklehead who wants that can a) read up on some real world mythology, and b) Do one.
And we want to play as those people Well they might have taken on the studies of the void but that means they are still partly high elves.
Edit: I would love to have the name high elf and a arcane racial but I know itâs not happening.
Everyone else here: Hyped about the high elves.
Me: WhOoOoO eLvEs WiTh BlUe HaIr
I donât disagree, but those kind of threads seems to be going back to the time when blood elves were first added to the game, so itâs safe to assume this is what they really want.
I still hope we will get normal hair colors tho but it can also come in the future. But wishful thinking before the pre-patch xD⌠And thats why I suggest KT hair colors.
What are these stories specifically.
I know some silver covenant stuff has been played out but to my recollection the alliance does not engage in any quests that tell us the current state of the high elf body in the Alliance. Itâs typically individuals and their situation.
For example we have no idea if they have another city or want one.
We have no idea of whether they have a leadership in place or how it is structured.
We have no idea about their general thoughts regarding the fourth war.
What we know is what some high elves individuals think, and we know what some neutral facing high elf organisations think of things (Silver Cov) but as for these âhigh elves in the allianceâ we have no idea what their story is and where it is headed because the game has told us extremely little, because that story is the blood elf story.
Beyond the shared history with belf, and the incidences of a lodge or two , what is the high elf story in WoW since vanilla? Note: Iâm talking about those in the alliance formerly- NOT the Silver Covenant.
I just donât see it. Iâm open to being wrong, but as said I want specific examples. I do not believe there are any current developments on the high elven race within the alliance formerly that serve as a way to distinguish them from blood elves. Pretty much all of their entries are âbelf did, so we didâ.
Whereâs the rest?
Now void elves, who have been in the game 5 minutes, have the whole harnessing the void, exile from Silvermoon, Darâkhans treachery, defiling Zandalari creatures to call on. It makes so much more sense to just tack the remaining high elves into this narrative, saying theyâve formerly aligned with the void elf body politic, than it does to do anything else. Just my opinion of course.
For blizzard to present a distinct alliance high elf story that differs from belf theyâd have to invent it first because it sure as heck isnât in game and hasnât been since vanilla beyond âwe like allianceâ. The Pandaren show us how it goes when you can only really explore that angle because you share core racial themes with an opposite: you get NOTHING.
Just a fun fact here. The entire race of Quelâthalas was renamed âBlood Elvesâ
I think she knows that and everyone knows that. But itâs Blizzardâs fault for making âHigh elvesâ seem like their own race. The NPCâs have a different Voice than the Blood elves. The High elves NPCâs use the Night elf voice but without the âIshnu alahâ. I guess blizzard was kinda lazy there.
And even Elisande during the Suramar campaign refers to the Sinâdorei and Quelâdorei as two separate people.
At the end of the day they are the same race, Thalassians (including Void elves) but I just thought itâs something important to note. Itâs not her fault for thinking itâs a race of its own, Blizzard kinda made it seem that way.
So by Blizzardâs logic, yes majority of the âHigh elvesâ are either Neutral or on the Alliance, while only a few returned back to Silvermoon.
I have personally counted the number of High elf NPCâs I saw in Azeroth (Iâm talking about the ones that call themselves High elf) and this is what I found.
Old Dalaran: about 55
Ice crown: about 26
Party Boat thousand needles: about 22
QuelâDanil: 13
Allerian Stronghold: 12
Thunder, Pandaria: 9
Stormwind: +6
Suramar: +4 (Silver covenant)
Telogrus: +3
Hunter Artifact room: 2
Mage Artifact room: ?
Theramore: 1
Ghostlands: 1 (Alleriaâs High elf Ranger)
Boralus: 1
Eastern Plaguelands: about 1
Iâm not implying anything, I was just bored and decided to do this. Thatâs how boring BFA is currently.
Then some want the option to choose to see their race as âHigh Elfâ and not Void Elf on the screen.
I donât agree with this. Nor do I agree with changing the racial. Thatâs only the dream of a few High elf fans but Blizzard would NEVER do it. Iâm being realistic here. Nor would I want them to do it. Void elves have a unique racial to them which makes them unique
Draw a line.
I think thatâs the problem. Many High elf fans want different things.
Some of us are happy with the customizations we are given in Beta and wouldnât want to see anything more (I fall under this opinion)
Some are happy but would like to see a few more natural hairstyles âto make it completeâ. Many on the Discord have this opinion. Syleenia (the night elf you are arguing with) has a dream to role play a brown haired High elf.
While the minority actually want for a change of racial and change of name.
So basically âyou canât make everyone happyâ but itâs best if we let Blizzard decide, and whatever they decide Iâll be ok with it.
1 Being racist against Blood Elves wherever they go.
2 Being oddly inconsistent in their views regarding dangerous magical practices and diets.
3 Being trophy wives to their human companions.
That about sums up the High Elven narrative of past, present and future.
I think she knows that and everyone knows that. But itâs Blizzardâs fault for making âHigh elvesâ seem like their own race. The NPCâs have a different Voice than the Blood elves. The High elves NPCâs use the Night elf voice but without the âIshnu alahâ. I guess blizzard was kinda lazy there.
And even Elisande during the Suramar campaign refers to the Sinâdorei and Quelâdorei as two separate people.
Blizzard did quite the opposite of making them seem like their own race.
Quite the contrary, they reused the Blood Elven model for all High Elves, even those introduced to us in vanilla. They put in an NPC in Allerian Stronghold telling us that the two look exactly the same, act exactly the same with the NPC having to tell us directly that they are not a Blood Elf.
Elisande may have divided the two, but essentially says the same thing about both of them. The only difference is that she thought the Blood Elves would have understood her decision, the Nightborneâs plight. But at the end, she tells the High Elves that they dillute their blood by mingling with lesser races, and she tells the Blood Elves that instead they chose to ally with monsters.
Basically saying the same to both, that they chose lower races over their more nobler kin (The Nightborne).
1 Being racist against Blood Elves wherever they go.
2 Being oddly inconsistent in their views regarding dangerous magical practices and diets.
3 Being trophy wives to their human companions.That about sums up the High Elven narrative of past, present and future.
1 Blood elves are even worse they are racists to everyone.
2. They overcome their magical addictions where the blood elves were consumed by it and needed saving by a alliance race.
3 Lots of high elves are with high elves the only high elves we know of are the windrunner sisters who married or dated human men.
Being trophy wives to their human companions.
Not every High elf is like that. Just the Windrunner sisters. And prince Kael Thas (now a blood elf) was in love with Jaina at one point. But majority of them are a bit racist in the past, and loved their own race only.
Until the invasion And 90% of thier people died, and they changed their opinion a bit.
Even Valeera (a Blood elf) loves a Human. Itâs just the MMO stereotype. Even happens in Lord of the Rings where the elf lady falls in love with a half human half Dwarf.
2 Being oddly inconsistent in their views regarding dangerous magical practices and diets.
They are not inconsistent in their views regarding magical practices and diets. But they are not a united front on that. The Quelâlithien High Elves hated the Blood Elves for the take-mana-from-living-beings-technique, the Silver Covenant hates the Blood Elves for allying with the Horde, which in itself is stupid considering why the Blood Elves joined the Horde in the first place (hint: they had no choice in the matter), and Quelâdanil⌠donât know, they just donât care and do not practice magic anymore anyway.
But the Silver Covenant is highly inconsistent in and by itself, Vereesa more so. Her personality is swinging wildly from one extreme spectrum to the other, she either hopes for the demise of all Blood Elves and takes every opportunity to insult them, and the next she hopes that they redeem themselves by rejoining the Alliance.
It is a clear case of a race that lacks character, lacks identity so to speak. They have no opinions or ideology that keeps them united, and makes them a noteworthy race so to speak. They are just there as NPC fodder, and canât really be anything other than that, because the role they would otherwise fill is already filled by the Blood Elves.
1 Being racist against Blood Elves wherever they go.
2 Being oddly inconsistent in their views regarding dangerous magical practices and diets.
3 Being trophy wives to their human companions.That about sums up the High Elven narrative of past, present and future.
This is what i mean
1 is defined entirely by the enemy. Yawn. Pandarengate
2 is their old lore, what about the past 15 years? You canât have a race riding the coattails of a yonks old difference that no longer applies as the entirety of their racial theme.
3 is individual behaviours
What is the distinctive helf alliance lore beyond âlikes allianceâ that makes them so different from belf? And if it exists, why is it a superior story to tell than the velf one?
Hence: look like a Helf, but youâre a velf, from me.
- They overcome their magical addictions where the blood elves were consumed by it and needed saving by a alliance race.
As a matter of fact, they did not need saving.
This was a part of Velenâs and the naaruâs plan all along. The Blood Elves did not desperately need the Sunwell, it is a nice addition, but they did not need it to thrive and survive, they had other methods of doing so. Besides, remember that the Blood Elves themselves chose to fight their prince, willingly chose to fight the Legion he sought to bring into the world. They fought equally with that âAlliance raceâ. Where was the High Elves?
1 Blood elves are even worse they are racists to everyone.
Nah. If anything it is the opposite.
Where was the High Elves?
Busy sitting in Dalaran or Stormwind munching on mana crystals to sate their magical addiction.
Nah. If anything it is the opposite.
I diagree with you there sorry the blood elves are a spoiled race. And they only joined the horde out of convenience. But they talk bad about them behind their backs.
willingly chose to fight the Legion he sought to bring into the world. They fought equally with that âAlliance raceâ. Where was the High Elves?
That is what you call blizzard.
But they talk bad about them behind their backs.
[Citation needed]
Besides, remember that the Blood Elves themselves chose to fight their prince, willingly chose to fight the Legion he sought to bring into the world. They fought equally with that âAlliance raceâ. Where was the High Elves?
To be fair we didnât see many High elves in burning Crusade at all. The ones in Outland (Allerian stronghold) are about 12 people (I counted the NPCâs.).
And then in Wrath suddenly we see this army (Silver covenant) being active in Ice crown and trying to help the best they can. Here is where they started being relevant and active.