New customization options for blood elves and void elves

No. It is not the drawing of life which creates fel. It says right there… it FUELS fel, life force is USED to produce fel… but the act of drawing life force IS NOT fel.

I see what you’re getting at but I think you’re downplaying the wording when it comes to the drawing of life - fel magic is fueled by drawing life from living things, but both the drawing of that life and its use is fel. Hence why the warlock draining someone’s life constitutes a fel spell. You could also look at is the warlock immediately using that life as fuel to empower himself, which is the fel portion, which is also a viable reading.

The act of siphoning an essence from living beings can be described as vampiric, yes.

Yes, and drawing the essence of a living being, especially a thing like say a mana wyrm, a fellow elf or a demon, which are sustained by magic and using that mana to feed yourself means that in that context, the drawing of mana and life overlap. Hence it being a fel spell. The same would not apply if you drew from an untainted object and the high elves have no issue with that. Which ended up biting those guys in the lodge when they overindulged and became wretched, but that’s another topic entirely.

You are right that Kael had mana drain as well as banish before he met Illidan and this in general is more of a grey area. In terms of WC3, the new source that Illidan promises him and the blood elves is explicitly demons, it being draining from any kind of thing is only a later change. The most recent source is Chronicle Vol 3, the page in the version I’ve got is 133, but this might vary, the chapter is called Burdens of Leadership and it has Illidan as the one to teach Kael and company to drain mana not just from living things but from items and the environment. The earlier WoW encyclopedia version is a bit more vague since there it’s just mentioned he taught them about draining alternate sources and both would be contradictory since it’s also mentioned that Kael already knew how to drain mana from the leylines, ergo the environment, and did so with Dalaran, it just wasn’t enough. We also see that the Nightborne knew how to drain mana from the environment and items just fine with their siphons, so this whole thing is a bit of a mess.

The main thing that’s consistent though is that they didn’t know how to drain mana from living things, despite Kael being one of the Council of Six and Rommath being capable enough to be Grand Magister until Illidan taught them that, and that the things the majority drained had mana and life be the same thing, like with mana wyrms, so the draining of their lives to buff themselves, taught by a demon and unknown to the top mages of the time otherwise is a form of demonic magic. The only version that contradicts this and has Kael already know how to is WC3, but new lore trumps old and even if it didn’t, the WC3 Blood Mage Blurb makes clear that all of those were demon magic:

Calling themselves ‘Blood Elves’ - these cold hearted refugees seek to expand their remaining magical powers at any cost - even if it means courting the infernal powers of the Burning Legion!

clas sic .battle.net/war3/human/units/bloodmage.shtml

Mana Burn is used by demon hunters, but like you mention it’s also used by priest and it isn’t actually a draining spell, so I left it out of my examples on purpose. Mana Burn for priests comes from a simpler time where all this was a lot more unclear. In current lore I can see how fel can be used to blow up mana, since it’s adding disorder to order, I can see how you could move arcane from one to another, but I’ll freely admit I don’t get how you’d go about using Light or Void to achieve the same.

P.S: I can’t link Blizzard’s own sites because the word for :peach: is in the filter. Good job, Ion.

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For studying the magic used by Dar’khan the most treacherous elf in all history who caused the fall and murdered his people? Hells to the yes. Traitors.

Yeah, serves them right. You should also kick out all the Warlocks, they use the magic of the foul Burning Legion who slaughterend the populations of many planets. And while you’re at it, send the mages away, after all they were the ones who made Kalimdor tear apart. ლ(ಠ ⌣ ಠ)

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But the Ghostlands are scawy!

But it could make us powerfuuuul :frowning:

Sunstrider tatoos for both Blood and Void Elves please!

And Dark Ranger / San’layn undead looks as well please

The funny thing with the void elves is that since they got exiled for their risk to the Sunwell, that means that it happened at some point after the Sunwell got reignited with the Light. Which means their research is pointless when it comes to sating the need for mana and they were just dabbling in the horrors from beyond time and space for science.

The other funny bit is that in doing so they’re closer to TBC blood elves than the actual current blood elves. And by funny I mean sad.

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Seems T&E already posted on this subject.

Guess they could not wait for the weekly reset. :wink:

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To be honest, I don’t really care about the eye color anymore. Heck they even gave dark skin color to blood elves and while they look kinda cool, that is, as I am aware, against the lore.

At least I can play a high elf character on the red team, that is not a problem to me.

Uhm, no… They dabbled in the horrors from beyond time and space for power.

Power!

POWER!

UNLIMITED POWERRRRRR! insert Palpatine gif

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Honestly they should have made the void elf backstory as high elves who heard about Alleria’s adventures on Argus and the twisting nether and they decided to embrace the void as well in order to protect the universe as she did. And then the same thing could have gone wrong like in the void elf scenario!Alleria would save them and then they would join the Alliance. While other High elves (and blood elves) would join later on! Honestly this sounds so much better than the actual backstory!

hmm belf beards? now they wont get bullied so much i guess.

Wat happened in the void elf scenario?

Yes, “unlimited power”…but if Void Elves became as ugly as Palpatine in the process, nobody would play them lol.

It’s too easy to want unlimited power and be beautiful, too…not to mention the Void being forcefully removed from your bodies despite being called Void Elves (the new fair skins :stuck_out_tongue: )

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The Void is just a thang now, nothing to flinch about, like ehh, that Worgen thing, I heard it was a curse or something, real curse must be shaving that hairy back each full moon.

If you remember they were attacked by ethereals and they were trying to transform the blood elves into void beings but was stopped halfway through by Alleria. That’s also why they look all purple and corrupted. So that would have been for the high elves as well. They could have just changed a bit of their backstory and that’s all. The rest could have been the same.

It’s not related tosubject, but you got reallyinteresting mog! :+1:

Darling that’s not the reason. Any new Void elf will look like how Alleria looks. Normal looking with a void form and small changes: echoes in their voices, void in their hair etc. the current void elves like I said multiple times look the way they do because they were about to be transformed into void beings but that ritual was stopped halfway through by Alleria.

Kael’thas were not with the Legion at that point. Rather, much like Illidan he was against the Legion… until he felt ignored by daddy-Illidan.

Possibly.

Not at all.

Oh, I am sorry… did you already forget that the freaking Blood Elves themselves, without having to be convinced to do so, took up arms against their own royalty at Tempest Keep and joined in on the assault at the Sunwell?

Draenei saved them? Heck… the Blood Elves saved themselves by showing some initiative. If we are to take ridicolous claims into account, then Velen and the Draenei only intended to make more slaves for the naaru, saving them, pah.

I am not downplaying anything. Nowhere does it say that draining life produces fel, nowhere does it say that draining life creates fel… NOWHERE does it say that draining life is a fel spell, other than in your head.

What it DOES say… is that you FUEL fel by using lifeforce, by drawing lifeforce from a living being.

To cast a fel spell, you need to draw upon lifeforce. But you do not produce fel simply by drawing lifeforce, it does not say that. There is a dinstinction here.

And besides… as Brigante already stated, and as has been confirmed in the Cdev. The green eyes is a result of the crystals in Quel’thalas, not from the act of siphoning mana from living beings.

It is not entirely false, however, as Kael’thas and many other Blood Elves (Except those who were still sane enough and ‘sober’ enough so to speak to realise that their prince had gone mad) did end up going for fel energies because going for arcane energies was not enough.

So as you can see. They only did draw upon arcane energies from living beings for the longest time, they never had a sunction of fel. But the arcane soon was not enough and they turned to fel eventually. And again, it is important there is a distinction here between the Silvermoon Blood Elves and Kael’thas’ Outland Blood Elves.

Both did not do the exact same thing.

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The weird sexual subtext between Alleria and her void master (forgot his name) always creeped the sh*t out of me the moment I saw it, not gonna lie :skull: :skull:

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