And give those options also to the void elves ofc.
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off course
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I mean why not work together and get make sure blizzard knows what we want. (Well I rather have a whole high elf allied race tbh xD) But srsly if people are stop bickering what that void elves do not deserve high elf things and viceversa…
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I also made a new thread for this High elves and blood elf Customization's
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All I want for Void elves are natural hair colors/blood elf hair colors and a way to toggle their void form.
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That’s why I made a thread to make both races happy but yeaa there are some people who are entitled that the high elf community does not deserve this…
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Actually i dont mind if they unlock everything to everyone would make it easier, but what im not all for is the fact that 1 allied race should be getting so much more compared to rest, and by rest i mean all the races not just belfs. just to please this 1 part of community that wants to run around RPing high elves.
And The horde wants to RP as San’layn or Dark rangers. So I don’t see the problem with the alliance getting high elf options to RP
I can think of very few worse things for the RP community than giving us San’layn or Dark Rangers. Don’t make these generalisations.
If people want to play Elven Vampires, they already -EXIST-. Thats what a Blood Elf -is-. I mean that literally is the whole reason why there are Blood Elves and High Elves. Blood Elves learned how to drain sustenance from living creatures, High Elves refused to learn how to do so (Though theoretically -could- learn, they already drain sustenance from items).
Seriously, if you want a suave Vampire Elf, the Blood Elves are there for you. Thats their -thing-.
We don’t need San’layn to make things “More Vampire than Vampire” Thats precisely the mistake they made with Lightforged Draenei “They’re like Draenei, but more Draenei”
What?
How does that even make sense?
I mean Blizzard did throw a core race under the bus when they brought out LFD, but then we do know what they are like when it comes to “New Toys” syndrome.
Imagine the situation, someone is RPing a San’layn and bites your character, feeding your helpless body some blood.
“Oh great, I’m a vampire now am I? So who is paying for my race change, because I didn’t ask for this, so are you wiring me the money, or paying directly into my account? Is this the worst pyramid scheme ever?”
It would be monstrous…
Then lets look at Dark Rangers…
Unless Blizzard have gone 100% cultural appropriation, Dark Rangers can only be Female Elves. I’ll explain why in a bit. They can also only be one class, maybe two or three, I mean obviously Hunter, but lets be charitable and throw Rogue and Monk into that.
Does that -really- sound likely?
So, What is a Dark Ranger?
For a start it isn’t Nathanos. He was a standard Human raised as Forsaken. Then Sylvanas did some weird stuff (or her Val’kyr did rather,) so Nathanos really is unique, he is one of a kind, the method as to how he became what he is has never been done before, and now it seems never will be again.
That rules him out from being a Dark Ranger, as they are -not- unique, because there’s quite a few of them knocking around.
A Dark Ranger is a Banshee that has reinhabited their body. The very word -Banshee- is female. This is probably why all the Dark Rangers we see in game have a similar look. Female Elves, apart from that one nameless mob -called- a Dark Ranger, who doesn’t actually look like a Dark Ranger at all, but some gangrenous horror with no actual features in common with a Dark Ranger.
OK…
So then lets move on to Nathanos’ Rangers that Sylvanas bangs on about.
Yeah, they’re normal Forsaken. I mean they look like Forsaken (Unlike Sylvanas and Nathnos but thats a whole different topic) He’s training Undead to fire missile weapons. He’s not creating Dark Rangers. Because he can’t, and neither can Sylvanas.
To be a Dark Ranger needs a specific set of circumstances, that can not be fulfilled if you are not a)Elven, b)Female and c) a Ranger.
So any Dark Ranger ‘Class’ would need to be only playable by elves, undead elves, Hunter Class (Maybe Rogue and Monk too!) and Female.
Can you see Blizzard making a class that can only be played by one sex?
I mean, it wouldn’t bother me, but I can imagine it would infuriate all the people who screech about “Woke” and “SJW” and “Feminazi’s”
They would go ballistic…
Oh hang on, lets add “Cancel Culture!” to the list of their howlings.
So whilst the implementation of the characters makes sense, it would face far too much opposition from people with…rather less tolerant views, shall we say?
But they introduced male dark rangers anyway.
The majority of the Night Elven Dark Rangers appear to be male, whilst the High/Blood Elven Dark Rangers appear to be female.
Female Night Elf and Male High/Blood Elf Dark Rangers do exist (the former is most obvious because -Delaryn-) but I don’t think this was done to please any political side of the fence…it was just done because common sense demanded it.
Unlike Tyrande, Sylvanas did command both male and female rangers, so it makes sense that both male and female dark rangers also exist.
EDIT: Also, I’d like to point out. When the Dark Rangers were put in the game in TBC/WoTLK, their wasn’t so much story focus on them. Nathanos hardly showed up and the Dark Rangers were just seen as the average high ranking officers.
As far as the Forsaken’s story goes in WoTLK - it was primarily a “Sylvanas-driven” story and the average Forsaken were to be actively involved in the questing experience, such as Venomspite and New Agamand.
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There is a toy ingame that turns you into a Dark Ranger. I tried it on my Night elf female, she turned into a Night elf Dark Ranger male. Lol.
They haven’t though, or do you mean NPC’s? I’m talking about playable ones, as the previous poster was.
She did indeed command rangers of both sexes, however as Blizzard have stated, and shown in game, upon death, if they are not lucky enough to simply go to the afterlife, Male Elves who die become Spectres, Females Elves who die become Banshee’s. Spectres cannot become Dark Rangers. Banshee’s can. Spectres have whole other models and powers, than Banshee’s who have demonstrably been able to possess people/things. Spectres can’t.
Bad Storywriting does not mean a single sex allied race. I’m not some weird misogynist, I already have female characters at max level who I think are brilliant.
I also think if Blizz are going to do this properly, it would be almost impossible.
Male Dark Rangers cannot exist, without Blizzard going “We’re cool with nicking your culture!”
I can’t see that happening somehow.
Banshees, or, lets get it correct, Beansidhe’s are by definition female. Thats not open to debate, that is a thing. I mean you can -try- and debate it but you would be wrong.
The criteria Blizzard themselves set out, state what a Banshee is.
Just sayin’
Consistency. Unless they want to widdle all over a racial history that has lasted for three thousand years just for shiggles. And rewrite their own lore. And redo the models, and redo the effects they have, oh, and also rewrite the quests in Icecrown?
Consistency…Its a thing…
Yeah, there’s sweeties that turn me into a cat as well, is that a playable race? Or the one that turns you into a tiny red demon! Is that a playable race now?
You see where I am going with that.
I replied in the sense that you said it should get restricted to females. So I said this funny story as a way to show you that Male Dark rangers do exist
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Yeah and that was very clear tbh.
Some people just get blinded by their ‘crusade’. Both ‘sides’ have this problem. 
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Cheers like. I’m sure my ancestors would be pleased to know an American video game can rewrite our myths, but then, they do it to everyone else so eh…
Whut?
What in the actual hell are you talking about?
Yeah, WoW borrows from all kinds of ‘real life’ myths/legends and such (as is done across all manner of media). They don’t re-write anything. 
Curious though… what ancestors and what myths would that be?
I was taking a leaf from the dramatical overenthusiasm America has for re-writing everyone’s narrative, in a sardonic way, but I fear I missed the mark. I was being sarcastic.
Already referenced it! What a Bean Sidhe is. Irish in case you hadn’t guessed. Or half Irish, half Scots (Which is more or less the same thing given that the modern day Scottish are descended from Irish invaders).
But yeah rewriting ‘Banshee’s’ is essentially touching on some ancient folk belief’s, which is not necessarily a particularly cool thing to be doing.
What I was sarcastically referring to, was that if they were suddenly saying that Dark Rangers (as in ex-Banshee’s) could be male, that they were indeed trampling over three thousand years of mythology of a culture that is rather enthusiastically fetishised in the USA each March 17th…
As in “If you write something a certain way, stick to it!”
Listen I just want to be fair here if we get new high elf things the horde needs something.
That used to be true, but they introduced male Elves at some point. You see them as NPCs here or there.
During the War Campaign for example.
That’s how Sylvanas returned yeah.
But I have seen nothing to confirm that every Dark Ranger were raised from undeath this way?
Quite the opposite, as the Night Elven Dark Rangers are raised from undeath directly.
Unless you have a source to provide that claims otherwise?
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