Don’t forget that they saw Gul’dan. A green orc as invader. It’s just they doesn’t compared the advantages and disadvantages of the factions and just joined the first one which looks better because of one race.
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I do wonder if Thalyssra has had any regrets. Mostly due to Sylvanas and her… rather brutal choices. Or maybe she’s actually OK with it (it being the tree burning) seeing as she felt scorned by Tyrande? Maybe she’s a vengeful sort?
I’d love to see Thalyssra share her thoughts in game.
Her reaction would very much be the same as Emmarel Shadewarden in some regards.
Neither Thalyssra nor Emmarel have any forms of connection to Teldrassil. Darnassus means nothing to either of them. Asking for a Nightborne’s opinion on the destruction of Teldrassil…you’ll get a mere shrug of the shoulders.
The problem we’ve got is that their are too many people who view Nightborne’s ideals with Night Elves’ ideals and that is simply not the case. Blizzard are clearly writing them as two separate races who have their own identities with their own outlooks on the Azeroth life.
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And just remember that they helped you with your rebellion not a long time ago. Do you really think that it’s just an “anyway” for her?
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But at this point, the Nightborne have joined the Horde and the whole reality of it is simply - Teldrassil doesn’t mean anything to them. Fandral birthed it ten thousand years after the Nightborne’s shield went up. It’s like asking Queen Azshara about how she feels about Teldrassil’s destruction. She’d laugh and then shrug. It has no connection to her.
It’s just like the Unseen Path. This order was established many thousands of years prior to Teldrassil’s birth and Emmarel has never been shown to actual ponder about Kalimdor’s fate. If anything, her lore tells us she cares for Silvermoon’s wellbeing before Darnassus’.
I think nobody just doesn’t care about that what was happened. I personally would criticize the actions of Sylvanas if I would be a member of her faction. I think every normal people would think about the actions of Sylvanas and have a opinion about that.
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Methods used, yes - but to argue for a reaction from Thalyssra or the Nightborne, expecting her to feel some sort of connection to it is simply not possible.
Indeed. But the question if they’re in the right faction. I just remember Lor’themar in MoP. I know it is impossible cause of the engine and they will remain in the horde. But still I think that it should be something like with Lor’themar in MoP.
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The Sin’dorei and Shal’dorei are tight in unison at the moment.
It’s likely that they will communicate with each other and voice concerns together, to the Horde council.
Nonsense, the sin’dorei are clingy, too clingy if you ask me, the sentiment is not mutual. We are curious and okay with them, but tight and in unison? What an exaggeration.
The nightborne learnt fel magic from the Legion itself before we overthrew them. And we have the Illidari on the broken shore can give us a unique perspective, there is nothing we need from the sin’dorei in that position.
In fact, the only elven group we can actually learn something new and substantial are the kaldorei druids and the extensive work they’ve done, the development of the order of Elune is an advancement we did not have either, and ofc the Illidari.
Oh you mean the lies the sin’dorei gave us? This is what it seemed at first, but the alliance seem pretty determined too, and they have a strength of character I have observed so far no horde race posses, most impressively shown in the kaldorei and quel’dorei. And there is plenty individuality there too, we were lied too.
Oh so you are aware of Valtrois misgivings, and you need me to quote a source? As a nightborne warlock, you can count ME as another nightborne that thinks it was a mistake to have joined the horde.
doesn’t look like the kaldorei are too happy with the humans atm, perhaps we should approach them and help them. The nightborne were always supportive of our kin, and there are many a fan of the high priestess Tyrande here, especially amongst the female populace.
We certainly didn’t partake or aid in the war of thorns, and I condemned it all the way.
Night elves have always helped each other, if they feel they can find help in us, well, we might just go form our own faction instead. We might invite the sin’dorei if they begged to join. But they are such a liability and so easily distracted by consuming more power its hard to trust them.
We remember the satyrs were zin’azshari highborne, your ancestors, not Suramar night elves or Eldre’thalas, it’s your lot that failed our race.
I mean you do realise it is your family that lost control, and you did it again in the events of the burning crusade. Not a reliable track record.
So to correct you, so there is no doubt: The Nightborne are far more controlled with fel magic and have surpassed any foolish blood elf who attempts to summon demons. The kaldorei are too pure for that kinda thing.
You just have developers batting for the horde and the blood elves. But loves switch you know, don’t count on it lasting forever. The nightborne came about through night elf love, and while these night elves were shunted to the horde, you have to have noted the growing alliance night elf love since.
Today’s Suramar is EXACTLY the same as Suramar 10,000 years ago. Both night elven highborne and other castes stayed behind.
No, the people the long vigil kaldorei banished were the Darth’remar highborne group with them that broke the ban on the arcane in place to protect their world. The other highborne and arcane wielding night elf groups did not interact with the long vigil group.
The night elves today are the same night elves 10,000 years ago, some were highborne, others were not, those who were highborne reclaimed their heritage when the ban on the arcane and highborne were lifted to welcome the shen’dralar back.
Because they have better character and nobility than the blood elves.
Because they are our night elves, we are from the same city and have been long separated.
Because the kaldorei need help restoring their magical skills, there are just not enough highborne shen’dralar amongst them to speed this process up.
Because the nightborne can learn a lot more new things from our kin than we can from the blood elves - the blood elves have nothing we need or want to learn.
Because the kaldorei and alliance, have highborne, they also have high elves and void elves, it’s bigger elven party, over there.
They know how to survive without compromising their integrity, morals and principals, this is the Elven way, this is the Kaldorei way.
The horde, are just conquest minded, butchers, always full of vengeance, revenge, picking fights and trying to take what isn’t theirs, they have no honour or credibility, monsters, the nightborne should leave immediately, there is so little in the horde. Only Liadrin, the blood elves and a small section of Silvermoon/Quel’thalas is worth anything in the horde - the rest are garbage and refuse that need to cleaned out for all the trouble and conflict they’ve caused and continue to cause.
Understatement of the year. The sin’dorei were so far up nightborne buts, and pushing for friendship, they didn’t do their research at all.
Now they are in a situation in a faction whose morals and values are at complete odds with theirs. In the sin’dorei they find some measure of commonality, because some of the blood elves retain the nobility of their former selves, especially the redeemed ones like Liadrin, but a little bit more research would have found far more commonality in the highborne amongst the kaldorei, the high elves in the alliance and the void elves too.
In fact, I’d wager you the only type of nightborne enjoying the horde are the sort who flocked to the legion
Kek whats about Blood Knights 
Why you can’t argue without to showing that you’re extremely NE biased?
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We follow Elune, the night warrior holds more interest than paladins, besides, those that want that path can follow the high elves or the odd night elf or two that are in that order.
The night warrior a divine being empowered combatant is more appealing to a nightborne who fondly remembers when the temples were alight with the prayers to Elune.
No you don’t warlock
Blood Elves where Blood Elves 10.000 years ago too.
Provide a source for this otherwise it’s total headcanon.
The Blood Elves know how to wield Fel Magic. Their well-maintained Fel-Crystals were prevalent of their mastery of the art.
The Nightborne were slaves to the demons and fel magic - it’s only now where they can become the masters, without becoming “Felborne.” This only comes with practice though and the Sin’dorei are the ones to help them with that.
Eldre’Thalas. The same ones who lost the plot with imprisoning the Demons for thousands of years and drained it’s essence to live off? Then lost total control of it…
And the Nightborne never controlled demons or fel magic, barring the Felborne. They are armatures, but they will grow to wield it with as much majesty as the Blood Elves.
Like who?
Like when?
And Rexxar’s as well, but those are only concerns. Not “Let’s jump ship and join the inward Kaldorei.” It’s concerns that Rexxar shares with her - unless the Orcs are about to jump the Horde ship as well, yet 8.1 is quite telling that many Orcs who have been stationed in Darkshore have no intentions on leaving and neither do the Shal’dorei.
Yeah, because they totally held up communications with Suramar? Please, it was a Sin’dorei effort to maintain diplomatic ties with the Nightborne. The Kaldorei and Quel’dorei chose not to. That’s there problem, not Thalyssra’s or the Blood Elves’.
You don’t understand the Nightborne what-so-ever.
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There’s a lot of headcannon flying about in this thread 
So much of it is coming from Kelibor/Kelibas or whatever the hell he wants to call himself.
There’s far too many people in this thread who simply do not understand the Nightborne at all.
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You should look at his threada in the old forum which he created about Night Elves. Only whishes which never come true.
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You are one of them clearly. Stick to Quel’thalas and the blood elves, you don’t understand night elf kind.
Nightborne are Elune based, not Light based
No, they weren’t. But this forum is full of lore experts who really know little about what they are talking about.
Yet the vast majority of the fans will boldly tell you most blood elves in Silvermoon weren’t even touching the fel. Learning how to siphon magic from other sources including fel is not mastering fel magic - logic and commonsense is rife amongst some of you.
Every race has had members that have experienced some measure of enslavement by the demons, look in the mirror. Felborne has nothing to do with control or being slaves to demons, they are traitors who willingly allied themselves to the legion. Some have since seen the error of their ways and use their powers for more worthy allies.
Talking out of your **** again i see.
Well, last i checked, felborne were nightborne = nightborne mastery over fel greater and more prolific than blood elven one. We have at least an entire group dedicated to fel magic, pls amateur blood elves.
And last i checked, the Eldre’thalas ones successfully did what your ancestors theorised was possible for 10,000 years, and they did it without opening Azeroth to the demons agains like you lot and your human students you couldn’t even control.
If anything it just goes to show that all night elves just simply do magic better than blood elves, no matter what magic - arcane, fel, nature, divine. You’ve been tamed by trolls and humanised, but we still respect you and try to help you.
Every female nightborne, and I myself amongst other nightborne males.
Like when we helped the Moonguard in Suramar, the val’sharah kaldorei refugees, worked with nighteyes, and have a great relationship with Valewalker Farodin - we don’t hate our kin.
We did not participate in the disgusting war of thorns, wiping out people who lived with us in this very city, who left the comforts of home and hearth to actually take down an impossibly strong enemy in the legion and our former Queen who had full control of the well. They did the impossible, and had to live in a world without any of the comforts we continued to enjoy. And they made do.
If your ancestors had been better at your calling, you would have been able to successfully show them that it was needless to stop using the arcane and demonstrated how it could be used without drawing attention to the demons as well as the strategic sense in developing your arcane skills with a power source like the second well rather than avoid using it. I am also fully convinced the shen’dralar would have done a better job too.
instead you zin’azshari lot just bungled it, and got yourself kicked out, setting back all elven kind in your generations back into no man’s land. At least the shen’dralar and nightborne have returned, we’ll help you out, but we expect you to leave these barbarians in the horde behind, and stop hating on your elven kin. It is low and not worthy of the high calling of the Quel’dorei.
Thalyssra chose the sin’dorei because you were so in her face so much, probably bad mouthing your kin constantly, when did elves become so desperate anyway? It’s pathetic, if it wasn’t because of the sheer relief of saving Suramar both your groups did, we would have spotted your deperation and been turned off by it, however, Tyrande, now she is playing hard to get… why am I suddenly aroused by this? I prefer the hard to get ones anyway. Throwing yourself at someone else is cheap.
I understand nightborne just fine.
No it’s you. You have no idea about what the Nightborne race is and what they’re outlook is. You want them to be a sh!t Alliance race that submits to sh!tty Humans and inward, bland Night Elves.
You don’t want what’s best for them. You want them to a bad race.
Mastery of the Arcane - took to Fel very quickly and have wielded it with expertise ever since.
Headcanon.
Not of the Alliance, therefore doesn’t count for them to join the Alliance Night Elves.
Hardly interacted with them. Again, not of the Alliance, so it doesn’t count in the long run.
A neutral Night Elf hermit. Irrelevant.
Our characters did. The Nightborne did not.
“The Horde embodies strength, determination, individuality - traits we Shal’dorei value as well.”
Those were her words on how she views the Horde.
Clearly not.
Put your hard-one for Tyrande away.
So the Nightborne deserve to be treated like crap in such an inward faction that doesn’t respect their values. No.
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It is amusing that Kelibor / Kalibas Switches character portraits as if in Nightborne char he thinks he is more right about the race than any other.
Sorry, but your explanations just feel like your other thread About the Dream of night elves. Extremly unrealistic and just pulled out of nowhere.
And judging by the way you are writing you are taking it waaaay too personal. Remeber that it is a game. Just a bunch of pixels. Yet while reading your posts I feel like you would be ready to jump on a spikes just to prove anything related to Night elves and Nightborne.
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