Well actually as a completionnist I enjoy doing everything on my main character. This one.
Beside cloth transmog don’t work on leather bearer.
Also why should I be told by anyone how I should play MY game? As long as I hurt no one, as I don’t ask for anything to anyone, as long as i’ autonomous, why would you care?
I had a way of playing and I enjoyed it, it is removed from me and I have the right to say so. Why do you care? what do you try to prove? that Blizzard took the best decision for me? that they know better how much time I put in this game and what I do with it?
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I collect everything too on my paladin. I still don’t feel it’s worth the upset over the portals being cleaned up and some old ones being lost. It will not stop me from farming what I need to. I will still complete all the things I need to do.
I will not stop enjoying the game because they haven’t kept on top of the portal cleanup for a few expansions. It’s long overdue imo.
And because you are fine with it everyone has to be fine? If you don’t care about portals I guess you never use them, no one forces you too. If the portals are being removed I can’t use them anymore, there is no more choice for me. I’m forced into a game play I don’t enjoy, it’s tedious and not interesting.
Will it keep me from doing stuff, maybe in short terms, but stuffs keep piling up, and the game is less and less fun to play, until one day it is not at all anymore…
I’m starting to give up on somethings because they became too tedious, and for now it remains my decision, until I decide there is no more choice than leave.
Do you care? I guess not it won’t affect your game play.
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I am not telling anyone else how they should feel. It’s a discussion where I gave my opinion. It just seems those of us who don’t have an issue with it get jumped on.
You get jumped on because you seem to say “it doesn’t affect me so I don’t care” great sense of community !
Oh I see you just wanted a topic full of people agreeing. Not actually have any other points of view. No one else’s reactions were allowed.
I personally do not care. My point of view and reaction is as valid as yours. Whether you like it or not I am just as entitled to express my view.
- stands up *
I LIKE THIS CHANGE
- sits down *
Equally I have no objection to a compromise being reached.
Ok can you tell me then what actually you LIKE in this change? In what GOOD way it will change your experience in WOW?
Classic storm in a glass.
Feidreva. I agree with you as i written but puny just stated her opinion as she always did. I dont Think mvp should avoid to expose their opinions just cuz they are mvp.
She disagree. Thats it.
Everyone is welcome to disagree. But the thing is I’m never told why the removal of portals will benefit to Punyelf ?
What will they gain from it?
Yeah, there is no benefit in removing of the portals. If they add any QoL change and then they take it from us, it would always seem like they do it just to make it a little bit more inconvenient, because I can not think of any other reason, why the would remove portals, when some of them were in the game nearly for a decade, or move them into the corner of the continent (Pandaria).
It just seems as a bad joke from Blizz side, sorry.
And I was really looking forward to see and use the new portal rooms, but it is like everytime Blizz do something great, they have to somehow butcher it 
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I don’t understand this change neither. It’s not like the World of Warcraft was fascinating. Traveling from Silithus to CoT isn’t a fun adventure when you do it every weeks for 3 years to farm some mount. If the game was totally different, if each travels from point A to point B was a long but fun adventure filled with mysteries, always different, with random encounters popping all over, the removal of portals would have make sense.
But WoW isn’t this game anymore. We all know the non-endgame world isn’t very interesting: it’s static and dead. We only go there to complete old achievements and farm stuff.
That’s why removing portals is just painful. It will add extra flying time but it won’t add new gameplay features. The traveling will be slower but also more boring.
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I think the current portal system is a big mess. Centralising it in the relevant two major capitals is a great idea. SW and Org have various portals dotted around all over the place, SW even more than Org for portal locations.
I think they should have stuck to the system of removing portals from old hubs like they did when old Dalaran become obsolete at the end of Wrath of the Lich King expansion. If this had been kept as standard practice then no one would be upset now, probably part of the reason I’m not upset is because I’ve been through it before. It seemed like it was going to be a big inconvenience then too but it turned out to be nothing.
I personally don’t feel it’s any loss because I’m not losing access to anything in the World of Warcraft, I can still farm all the same content as much as I like. Those levelling through Legion will get the relevant portals proc as and when they need them to appear for various quest chains.
I also remember playing the game when mage would be someone you asked for portals all the time. Now I rarely ever ask a mage for a portal. A thing that was once very unique has just become something very expected by many in the game. So if the Dalaran Crater is somewhere you really have a high desire to be, then speak to a mage and offer him/her some gold.
Jito offered a solution to the CoT issue. It’s not a method I remember using but I trust his posts and experience.
First of all thanks for your reply .
I’m not against the portal room I even thought, at first it was a good thing, IF all portals would have been moved there. But since it is not the case, it gave me second thought, and I think that maybe having portals here and there is a good way to keep the world alive. As it is I think SW and Org are laggy enough not to concentrate everything in those cities. And then maybe they coulD have spread portals rooms through different major cities so we don’t all stack in one point.
The portal removal is a problem of options. We were given options we don’t have anymore, and once again we’re not given any valid reason. “Making the wold bigger” isn’t true. The world isn’t bigger by AFKing a flying path from two point, and it’s all the opposite of immersive: most people tab out.
If there is other routes to be found, just as effective, all the best!
This is the part I’m bugged with tbh, it turned out it wasn’t a big deal for you, doesn’t mean it can’t be a big deal for others. We all have different agenda and our own way of playing and enjoying the game. We don’t all have the same amount of time to play. And sometimes the convenience of transport makes the difference between having the time and motivation to do something or not, mostly when it’s a content you repeat over and over again.
Also the question is why now? What stands behind the decision at this time precisely? Is Blizzard so much behind on content that they have to find ways to keep us in game longer?
I’m just trying to understand… People who didn’t want to use portals didn’t have to, people who found convenience over them could. No one asked for portals to be removed, didn’t they have better things to do?
Also my concern is that there will be less and less people to farm old content this way, and that the world feel even less live.
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Mages are gonna abuse this power and become rich as hell ![:sweat_smile:](https://d1bg94bbsh66ji.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/sweat_smile.png?v=6" ":sweat_smile:")
An excellent selfish pov. For both you and Jitto. While Jitto’s proposal is totally laughable (if you farm with x alts CoT area- which includes quite a few instances, only 2 rewardiding KoT rep, you will have to get revered with KoT on all, right?) yours is not far from it.
Remember stuff like Winter Veil? While I’m done with that, I think is open to lower levels too. Should you ask a mage for each of the 20+ characters you need to get there?
Remember the dragon spawning in Hinterlands during anniversary event? Cool, I used almost 30 characters to farm mogs from it, and all non druids used the Dalaran port to crater. Guess I should’ve used mages too? This archaic idea belongs to classic, which is launched this year.
Last time when I checked - I was not payed for playing the game. Therefore, having to cope with petty and sometimes plain stupid decisions which seems aimed directly against players interest, but instead padding on /played gets old. Portal removal is the last on a long set of this kind of decisions, BfA had plenty.
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I do wish you’d stop trying to twist my opinion into something to suit your argument. I am not telling you you have to like it. You are free to complain as much as you like. In fact Blizzard is better off hearing reasons why things are going to be terrible for others so that they can understand and maybe offer a compromise if they feel it’s needed.
I (me alone, not speaking for others), however am not going to get upset over the loss of some minor portals. I personally don’t mind if they do some fix or go ahead as planned.
I think this is the reason why I struggle to sympathize with these complaints.
If you play your main character and a couple of alts, then these portal changes aren’t a big deal. You might spend an extra minute or two flying around – whoop-de-doo!
But then there are those who seemingly play dozens upon dozens of characters, and they insist on multiplying the problem by a magnitude of 20-30, because that’s the amount of characters they play!
But the underlying request here is that the game should be designed to accommodate people who play 20-30 characters. And I absolutely disagree with that. An MMORPG is centered around the gameplay experience and journey of a single character, not a an army of alts or a multiboxing raid or whatever.
The game should never bend over backwards to try and make things easy and accessible for people who play with so many characters, because it means that for the people who play few characters the game design gets messed up, because everything feels way too easy and way too accessible.
If you don’t like the extra time burden that comes with playing 20-30 characters, then play less!
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I will assume your all knowingly position about how I should play the game comes at least from an extensive study of gaming design in general with some extra expertize for MMORPG, and is not some display of Smug Incarnate. If it is not, then how about focusing more on improving the quality of your playing instead of judging others? If you forgot, there are achievements in game for playing up to 12 alts, guess they did not bother to call for your opinion on those.
Portals were never an issue until suddenly Blizz decide to make one. And you feel the game is too easy? How about trying some real difficult content, might have a pleasant surprise. Ah, you take tedious for difficult? Well, then Classic is there for you soon enough.
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Isn’t that what I’m doing by saying I don’t want an excess abundance of portals in the game I’m playing?
And I’m not judging you – you can play however many characters you want. But you should own up to it then.
If you want to play 30 characters, then you should also be prepared to invest 30x the effort. If you don’t have the time or inclination to do that, then just play fewer characters!
You want all the benefits of playing with 30 characters – the extra dips on mount drops and transmogs – but you don’t want any of the effort that’s supposed to build up to those benefits. You just want instant gratification (Give me a teleport straight to the instance I want to do, so I can just cycle 30 characters through in no time!).
I’ll go ahead and say I’ll take lessons about effort involved and instant gratification from someone that actually put some effort into the game, thank you. Probably only doing all 36 mage tower challenges was more effort than you invested in the entire Legion.
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