I don’t think this will be an issue, we don’t expect much from classic as it is an unfinished product with a lot of issues. Like questlines just ends out in nowhere sins the dev team just stopped their development in that direction to be able to put the game out on the market. This is not a bash, I do also wait on it with passion as I joined the game slightly before patch 1.4 DM was released while I was leveling and I have good memories from the time. But on the other hand, I know that I have suppressed a lot of feeling or even forgot some of the issues sins they were fixed or we moved on to new areas.
I just hope that enough people stick with it that the experiment keeps going and that I don’t end up on a dead server. I will not give up one version of WoW to play the other though but I’m looking forward to a bit of nostalgia.
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Well this is the main game not some silly classic yea sure many want to play classic but for me i’m not one of them and i prefer that main wow does not go back to that state of the game , bin there done that have no interest in doing it again !
And to be honest see no reason for why they should remove the portals at all.
its a bad move on there behalf .
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Yup that is my opinion naturally, like i say there “in my books”.
I think most people who go for classic whether being old timers like me or newer players experiencing it first time are pretty aware how it is going to be and how it is different from current live. Feel free to mock them after thing you assume has happened but doing it before hand sounds just like belittleing others and underrating their understanding skills.
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You can’t really say the portal room is like having to run and travel in Classic. It’s definitely a minor incovenience.
Whilst I can understand some don’t like the removal it’s not like we are being thrown into the dark ages.
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Looking at the comments on Wowhead it’s hard to find a good word being said about this,
so that’s a good job well done if their intent was to further alienate players.
I get the feeling that Blizzard aren’t being straight with us.
The reasons they give for removing useful portals are wafer thin and their communication skills are worse than I’ve seen 3 year olds describe stuff with crayons on a wall.
I can only conclude that it helps them, not us which is selfish and just terrible PR.
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First of all I’m not mocking anyone, second of all we will see based on their reactions and the perception of the classic once it launches is it true what you are saying, and third I’m certain how a lot of people don’t know how classic will feel right now, because they never experienced it themselves but just did hear the stories about it from the people which might look on it with a good dose of nostalgia.
the removal of the portals is really stupid especially since they were so useful to short down traveling across wast distances to very spesific locations. p.s. also i feel that flying for an expansion should if they keep using the do achivments to unlock route either in the same patch as they let us increase heirlooms to the new max level for an expansion or in the patch before so that flying is unlocked first. and im saying this as an altoholic with all pve heirlooms at 110, who hates the super mega nerf to their usefullness as gear.
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Well, just adding my voice to the chorus of protestations. I really don’t understand that move to reduce player options when traveling.
WoW is already a game where players spend way way too much time waiting : for a mob to spawn, for a queue to complete, for a fly to finish. Adding more waiting is definitely not a good thing. Waiting in general is not fun and tends to break immersion too because you’ll inevitably end up doing something else (outside the game) while you wait out those long minutes.
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I completely agree with this as someone who played since vanilla, this is the reason why I brought this point into the thread in the first place since I don’t want to go back to that old type of the design and have removed all the QOL improvements we got over the years.
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I think removing portals is a bad idea. I’ll explain my opinion by answering questions posted by CM Bornakk on US forums:
- Does the world feel bigger without portals?
Not to me. If I have to travel a long distance through the old content, I just use the flight master or point myself in the right direction and auto-fly my way there. While doing it, I usually minimize WoW and go watch some Youtube or whatever. Thus, in a sense - removing portals makes the world feel SMALLER to me as I will ultimately see less of it due to being tabbed out.
On the other hand, without the easy portal access, I’m also far less likely to go exploring or partake in older content that’s unconvenient to get to. The same goes for cities - if I absolutely don’t have to, I will probably just stick with doing everything in Stormind/Orgrimmar. Moreover, due to the above - I will probably not play more because of that change as it lowers my motivation to do older content. In fact, there will probably be instances where this change makes me spend less time in the game.
- Does the world feel more alive without portals?
I don’t think so. I’m afraid that what will happen is that most people (and this includes me) will just flock to the locations that are easily accessible like Stormwind or Orgrimmar - and these locations will naturally feel more alive. On the other hand, the rest of the world will be even less empty than it is now.
- How convenient should things be for everybody?
I’m fine with new content being less convenient to go through (i.e. the removal of flying), but once you see and play through certain areas enough, I feel that the lack of convenience becomes less immersive and more frustrating. I think that at this point convenience should be more important. How much of it is needed? It’s hard for me to say, but I will say that I never felt that it was too convenient to travel around the world and thus 8.1.5 will not make me enjoy the game more on that front.
- Why do mages have portals? Should everyone have portals?
I have a mage character that I play from time to time and never did I feel that the portals in major hubs made my portals less exciting. They aren’t the same thing. If you want to use a general portal, you have to first travel somewhere whereas mages can just teleport or open up a portal from anywhere. To me that’s a considerable difference that makes mage portals unique and more convenient. And while someone could argue that you can just set a Hearhstone to a major hub and basically get the same convenience level - it’s not true, because doing this locks your Hearhstone destination to anyarea with portals, whereas a mage is free to bind his Hearthstone to any location while maintaining the same access to portal functionality.
So… No, I don’t think everyone should have portals, but I feel that simply being able to open them anywhere is enough of a difference to make other in-game portals not tread upon mages’ class identity.
Overall, I’m not a huge fan of this change.
Will it make me quit the game or in any serious way impact my day-to-day gameplay experience? Probably not, but it will not benefit me in any way either. I won’t feel the world is bigger or more alive, I won’t feel my mage is more unique.
And while for the most part, I won’t really notice that this change is live - there will surely be more times when I either decide not to do some older content or events - or - sigh and facepalm just before tabing out to Youtube during traveling.
Neither of these seems really positive to me, so that’s why I personally consider this change to be a bad one.
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I didn’t get a chance to verify it, but the plan was for the portals to show if you are on these quests.
For the part that was brought up about things like Ironforge being removed from the BfA portal rooms, I don’t think that’s intentional and should be changed in future build.
What content are folks doing in like CoT that the portal helps so much with? What about other areas? How much time do you think the new setup will add to your journey?
I think they don’t even know what they are doing…
“What content are folks doing in like CoT that the portal helps so much with?” Does the guy even play the game?
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I don’t think it’s as much an issue of him not knowing what a player can do in CoT, but him trying to stimulate the discussion by asking questions. Some might be a bit silly, but I kinda wish Aerythlea or any other European CM would sometimes do the same for us.
It’s not much, but it does help people feel that they’re being listened to.
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What makes you say that?
They’re consolidating the portal locations in the game, and reducing the portal locations to cover the relevant continents.
Then there is a case of the major city portals from Dalaran (new) being removed where they’re unsure if that’s intentional or not.
And then they’re trying to understand the somewhat surprising player feedback, since some players seemingly consider the Dalaran Crater portal so vital that they can’t play the game unless it is availiable to them.
I don’t see what’s odd about this at all. They’re obviously making changes in accordance with the plan they set out. Then there’s a little area they’re double-checking, and then they’re taken a bit off-guard by the fact that some people seemingly profess an undying love for some of these portals that are to be removed. And honestly, even I am a bit surprised that people get so worked up over a portal to Caverns of Time. It’s like it’s the end of the world if Blizzard removes the portal to Caverns of Time! That feedback is a bit surprising, if not heavily exaggerated.
I hate it.
It looks good, but it should not be located it SW, at all. It should be in Dalaran.
I just feel really sad SW yet again takes every effin bit of the Alliance. Thanks for making me hate it even more, now that I thought I could not get any worse. F SW.
There is nothing like the “end of the world” concerning WoW, there are just players who strongly disagree with decisions made. Because it will alter their game style, what they do in game.
And as they don’t have the feeling Blizzard’s devs are listening to any feedback players are expressing, they say it strongly in hope they would eventually be heard.
It’s easy to say we can get rid of portals if you don’t like them, since it won’t affect your playstyle.
While some, like me, use portals to grind all content, mounts, transmog whatever, every week on several character, and let’s face it the travel to those places aren’t the best part of WoW.
It won’t make the world feel bigger because I’ll fly every week from Uldum to CoT, it will feel just more boring, and make me lose time over my schedule of grinding old content, on several character. I won’t get anything from it, but annoyance.
Same with Karazhan…
Problem isn’t with moving portals in one place, it’s removing portals to unique places that are not easy to reach otherwise, and again, it won’t add anything to do the travel over and over again.
If they want to make the world feel bigger they should add world event around those places, so that there would be actually something else to do in those zone than going to instanced places to get the things we want.
Running an instance over and over isn’t that thrilling either, but at least we can get our reward for it.
There is no reason behind removing convenient portals, then just leeching time from players…
it’s not about making the world bigger, it’s just about stretching time.
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If enough constructive feedback and justification is given they may listen. The topic is getting a lot of attention on both side so the pond.
You never know, can’t help to explain why you dislike it’s removal and how you think it affects your gameplay.
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I have already explained why, earlier in this thread. And I just added a tiny point in said quote. The portal room belongs in Dalaran, not SW.
Oh hey I commented on wrong thread 
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So removing those IF/TB portals was an “oversight” and will be “fixed”…
Because, you know, forgetting 2 playable races and not even making space for them in the portal room is absolutely common … I dont think they fired enough people …