hellu everyone.
Wtf? That’s actually astonishing.
It’s just one scan as I said, of one evening on Emerald Dream-Terenas Alliance. Will take some time for numbers to stabilize I guess. Many are trying the new races atm too, both Vulpera and Mechagnomes. They won’t necessarily be people’s mains or played as much later.
do dk’s starting at level 58 get the heritage armor?
yes they do
That’s a point I see thrown around often and I disagree, Mechagnomes shouldn’t be limited to a gnomish personnalisation. Appart from Vulpera and Kul Tirans pretty much all AR could have customization options of their original races, Mechagnomes are very distinct from their original race. They are actual cyborgs, not just a Tauren with antlers or a different shade of elf, a cyborg. Something never seen in the game as playable, definitively worthy of the AR treatment.
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I’ve run into plenty of mechagnomes while spamming dungeon finder on my low-level alts, so I think it depends where you’re looking.
yup, I think we are all leveling through dungeons! Im 65 now and there is usually 1-4 MGs in each dungeon I do.
I think generally Alliance players are less keen on PVP content and MG players are probably people who look for the most efficient leveling route! I like my MG, the lack of transmog doesnt bother me really.
TBH Im glad that we got a couple of smaller races that arent that popular. We all know what happened when they introduced a really popular playable race to the game…suddenly the Horde was 50% belf! Do we want that to happen again?! LOL
Imo it works better as a Gnome customization than it’s own allied race. It would bring much needed development for Gnomes which are usually treated as a joke race, and are very neglected by the Devs. If it were a customization option, it would’ve brought an incentive to play Gnomes. Especially if it were paired with their heritage armor.
That’s not very distinct though. As we’ve seen from the Mechagon comic, they are just one step ahead of regular Gnomes when it comes to technology. And that’s their only theme really, which is the exact same as the regular Gnomes. And any regular Gnome can become a Mechagnome, as it happened during that same comic with the Gnome explorer who sat out to find Mechagon. Which just seems like an upgrade really not AR worthy.
You can create more Mechagnomes out of regular Gnomes if they wish to be modified. You can’t really say the same for the other allied races, other than perhaps LFD.
Void elves and Nightborne are very distinct from their respective races. Nightborne for example are different than Night elves in almost every aspect. Nightborne also have a very intriguing storyline and lore. Void elves despite the hate they recieve, are also pretty distinct than Blood elves. They are changed and shaped by the Void, and use Void magic aswell.
If it were the actual “Mechagnomes” the ones we’ve seen in Wotlk, the fully robotic Gnomes. Then yes I would have agreed, that would have been interesting and very unique. Way more interesting than what we currently have which is basically an amputee Gnome. It is a huge waste of the allied race slot.
They were literally BE 2 secs before becoming VE, appart maybe from Nightbornes and Vulpera (and KT bcs of their rigg, not their lore) all allied race are extremely similar to their original race and could have just been a customization option.
Zandalari ? Upright with scales
Magar ? Brown
HM Tauren ? Now with antlers
Lightforged ? More Draenei in your Draenei
Void elves ? Again they were BE two seconds ago, they have no unique culture or lore, just a failed experiment and now they are purple
Dark Iron ? Reskin
So basically a cyborg = a human ? All the philosophical questions about the relation between man and machine are lost on you ? Do you even Deus Ex ?
Compare the Zandalari and Darkspears. Both have entirely different story and culture. The Zandalari have an empire even and live in a grand city, and have an advanced navy and a monarchy. Darkspear trolls live in huts and are tribalistic.
Mag’har come for a different world/timeline all together. A different Horde too, they also bring with them the several other clans we saw in WoD as skin options. And they also use Iron Horde machines and siege weaponry. The regular Orcs don’t.
Hm Tauren should have been a customization option.
Lightforged should have been a customization option.
Void Elves are very unique, in that they are shaped by the void. They were one step away from becoming ethereals too, before we stopped the ritual. You can’t make more of them either, and they are the only race that uses void magic. They were added in as a swap race, where Horde got the Night elf model and Alliance got the Blood elf model.
Dark Irons are the most unique allied race for Alliance (outside of Void elves). They have the most lore out of all Alliance AR since they’ve been here since classic. Their culture is very different from regular Dwarves. They are very recognizable when compared to regular Dwarves. Dark Irons are one of the few evil factions that managed to redeem themselves and became playable.
And now let’s compare Mechagnomes to regular Gnomes. What’s there to compare really? They both share the same culture, they both have the same themes of invention and technology. They both had a technologically advanced city that they were driven out of, that they then led a rebellion to reclaim. They both have the same enemies, Mechagnomes have Mechatroggs and the evil Mechagnomes that joined King Mechagon, and Gnomes have Troggs and the leper gnomes who joined Thermaplugg. And both are currently ruled by the same person even. You can make more of them if any Gnome wishes to get robotic part.
But go on, do tell me how they are unique and deserving of an AR slot.
That’s not what I said and you know it. You’ve also ignored the point where I said “the real Mechagnomes that we encountered in Wotlk are more unique than the AR ones”. As those Mechagnomes could be the answer to the philosophical question.
That’s purely aesthetic, they share all the same themes; loas and stuff. Basically more advanced darkspear with a dino fetish.
Different color skins and an AU storyline completly irrelevant that blizz makes all it can for us to forget about, also they know how to use catapults. Their culture is also identical to the regular Orcs, shamans and stuff. Funny how it seemed to be such a big deal to have a similar culture for the Mechagnomes but it’s ok for the Maghars.
They were literally BE then poof, VE, again having a similar culture isn’t a big deal now ? What’s the VE culture about ? Dressing purples, also over races have been showned able to use the void, not like we had an entire spec dedicated to tentacles and stuff, it’s called a Shadow Priest btw.
They are dwarves, they live under a mountain and like forging stuff but with fire and shieet. They have also been redeemeed seems cata, big deal hot news.
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The Northrend Mechagnomes aren’t cyborgs, they are machines. Look it’s ok not to care for the Mechagnomes themes but you can’t just plug your ears and say they Don’t exist. Cybernetics is one of the biggest sci-fi theme ever, and that’s something truly unique to them. All AR appart from a few exceptions are copy pasted versions of their original races but Mechagnomes have something to them, actual themes, which is what matters the most in storytelling not shiny navies and catapults or powers pulled out literally nowhere, aka a Void.
Even back in Vanilla there was a Gnome (Lepper Gnome, to be precise) in Stonetalon where the Quest to kill him explicitly states he has a mechanical arm. So no, mechanical body parts are NOT new to regular Gnomes at all. They should have had them as options 15 years ago, but they did not because Blizzard did not give a damn.
Edit: h t t p s ://classic.wowhead.com/quest=1096/gerenzo-wrenchwhistle
Gnomes have never gotten their own capital. The Mechaganome Recruitment is LITTERALLY about Mekkatorque going from Gnome > Mechagnome. Mechagnomes do not get a playable Capital City, either.
Adding Mechagnomes as an AR instead of a Gnome customization is a huge middle finger to Gnome-Players, the Alliance as a whole and the entire game.
Imho they should have DEFINETLY been added as a customization for existing Gnomes. Ideally with an ulock quest pretty much like the Recruitment now, but where YOU - the Player-Gnome - go from Gnome > Mechagnome.
The exact same is true for Draenei > Lightforged, by the way. It hurt my soul when some young Draenei No-Name-Recruit who never did anything noteworthy is allowed to undergo the Ritual to become Lightforged…but my existing Draenei-Paladin is not?
Yeah, i love you too, Blizzard.
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That’s true of the two thirds of AR, but people only care about Mechagnomes because “waaa wanted the cute foxes” 
They are currently 23 playable races and AR and people just can’t accept that one of them isn’t for them and they must cry about ? Is it too much to ask to be happy for the people who enjoy the Mechagnome AR or at the very least have the decency not to throw a tantrum about it ?
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It’s not just pure aesthetic, it’s their lore, their culture. They are an advanced Troll civilization like it or not. Which is very different than the Darkspear trolls. They actually could be their own race instead of an AR. Don’t downplay them to fit your narrative.
Except it’s not really the same for Mechagnomes as it is for the Mag’har is it? AU storyline and Iron Horde weaponry aside, they still have the skins of the different clans. With each clan having it’s own lore too. That is still more unique than looking the exact same but with a robotic parts.
Also I wouldn’t have objected if they were made a customization option too. Like the Mechagnomes should’ve been.
Again they underwent a ritual that almost made them ethereals. They are not a BE anymore than a Nightborne is a Night elf. You can’t make more of them either, unlike Mechagnomes. They don’t share the same theme as Blood elves do. Also classes =/= Race. Otherwise you might aswell downplay Mages and Nightborne/Blood elves. Shamans and Orcs. Druids and Night Elves. There was never a race that purely (and only) used the void.
Dwarves that were part of an evil faction that served Ragnaros and his fire elementals, who enhanced their appearance and attributes. Were an enemy of the Alliance until quite recently. They had their very own culture too which is very different than the Dwarves.
Which is more unique and original than half robotic Gnomes. But again the AR Mechagnomes are literally the exact same as Gnomes, with their theme, story, enemies and both being ruled by a single person (Mekkatorque).
In a World of fantasy where magic happens, where dragons, titans the size of planets and demons exist. Cybernetics isn’t really a big deal. Especially when you realize that some of the current core races are descendant of actual machines.
Also like Nathara said, cybernetics have been used in the game since Vanilla so why does that constitute an allied race slot instead of a much needed customization option?
So why do Troll tribes who have/had big cities and empires are getting the customization option treatment ?
Clans that already existed within the original orcs, same names and same themes for each of them. Only difference is the colorskin, and Brown orcs were even already available.
Almost made ethereal, almost, they are still elves, ANOTHER Elven race. Originality claps, they even gave them a Ctulhu vibe because when out of idea just throw in some great old ones without any of the Lovecraftian themes, budget Ctulhu sure looks cool afterall. So you had a race copy pasted from a great author without any of its themes and to make them unique we copy pasted from another great author but themes went to the trashcan again. Better make them act all broody and mysterious. That’s some Inception level of copypasting. The simple fact that you defend ANOTHER Elven race as “original” speaks volume about your biases.
How ? How is their culture any different ? They live in mountains and forge stuff, and they are part of the Alliance since Cataclysm for Metzen sake, they are the whole Reason dwarf warlocks became a thing. Not to mention that again the so different and unique dwarven clan is getting the customization option treatment in SL with the Wildhammers.
Yeah not like we had constructs and titan stuff everywhere. Also many races Don’t even have a ruler at this point so that’s +1 for the Mechagnomes. And Gnomes themes Don’t entirely match Mechagnome themes, prosthetics Don’t equal cybernetics, otherwise all the vets with prosthetic arms want a word with you. And even if they had the exact same themes as Gnomes that wouldn’t make them any different than 2/3 of the AR.
See you do it again, you wave around your lack of interest of the subject and make it a fact, fun fact that’s not how it works. I cared much more for the short comic on the Mechagnomes than whatever dragon/big monster Blizz pull out as a filler boss in the next raid tier.
Don’t use the “poor Gnomes” card on me. People dont give a damn about Gnomes, they have been one of the least played race forever. You all wanted Mechagnomes to be a customization options so it could quickly be shoved to the side like Elven color lens while you had one new AR spot for yet another elf or cute race. Mechagnomes being an AR gave some much needed spotlight to the Gnome as it one of the main features of the expansion and brought players who couldn’t even name Mekkatorque, including myself, to gain interest in the race which is now one of my favorite in the game.
It’s because that single AR that was added was not wanted by the huge majority of the community. They are actually less popular than KT. They are aesthetically unappealing, and they were added alongside a highly requested race.
If it were a customization option nobody would’ve complained or threw a tantrum. Which they did since the moment they were announced as an AR.
Well tough luck, you Don’t like an AR, some people do. Pick another of the many elves and cute races and let people who are in more in niche stuff have their fun, that’s just sounding spoiled at this point.
Farraki trolls? They are still tribalistic. Go ahead look at their culture and design, they live in huts too. Go ahead and look at every other troll clan and then compare them to the Zandalari. Like I said the Zandalari are not a tribal clan they are a monarchy. They are very much a unique race on their own and could actually be an entirely new race instead of an AR.
Which guess what? Mag’har are based on the original clans that existed before the formation of the Horde. Which the current orcs have deviated from. The only current original orc clans that still exist are mainly Frostwolves, Warsong and Dragonmaw. And I’m not even sure Warsong still exist anymore after Garrosh’s reign.
As I said if they were made a customization option, I wouldn’t have minded. Same as what should have happened with the Mechagnomes.
Mechagnomes and Gnomes share the same ruler, so that +1 is actually for my point in them becoming a customization option rather than a wasted AR spot. Gnomes and Mechagnomes entirely match, let’s recap:
Same enemies/Storyline/Technologically advanced civilization/Technologically advanced city that was taken out by a high figure.
Gnomes are technologically advanced to the point they have fully functioning robotics. So no they use cybernetics not prosthetics like Gerenzo Wrenchwhistle. “Gerenzo Wrenchwhistle is not easy on the eyes. His flesh looks like it’s rotting away, and he’s grafted metal and gears onto his body, replacing some of his limbs with mechanical ones” Taken directly from his wowpedia.
Which part? The World of fantasy part where magic happens? Or the part about Humans/Dwarves and Gnomes being descendants of machines created by the titans?
I wanted Mechagnomes to be a customization option, because they look exactly the same as regular gnomes. Nothing new other than the mechanical parts. Nobody actually asked for them to be playable or even wanted them. Hate on Void elves or NB all you like, the fact still remains that they are more distinctive/unique and original of their respective core races, than Mechagnomes with Gnomes. Like it or not it’s true.
I also suggested Northrend Mechagnomes be added as an actual AR spot.so no I’m not shoving them to the side because I hate gnomes. I’m shoving them to the side because they should have never been an AR in the first place. I wouldn’t have objected if Northrend Mechagnomes were added as an AR.
Ah yes sounding very spoiled for disagreeing with yours truly about the addition of an AR race that nobody wanted, and is currently very unpopular. Just like alot of people expected. But hey good on you for enjoying it 