My imaginary problems? I have no Problems, imaginary or otherwise. No rdf is your problem, if you somehow forgot.
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That is interesting since your arguments say otherwise.
Okay, skip everything else I wrote.
I used the wrong word, “removed”. Rather, it significantly alleviates that problem.
This, to a certain extent, is one of the major reasons for support services. Of course, players who are i.e. under-geared, rich, etc. can still pay for a tank like you said (although IIRC there’s an IL limit?), and I’m sure that will exist. Just no where near as present as it is in TBCC.
I did not say support roles would magically be in abundance. Just that support roles are aware of the dire TBCC situation and exploit the frustration of players who are trying to get into groups (particularly on the largest EU server, Firemaw). Once again, back to Aelfwynn’s point, much much much less stressful to join a queue and keep doing something else i.e. quests/rep grind/professions.
2009 Wrath and what will be 2022 Wrath are going to be vastly different communities and/or experiences. People are using the LFD argument because they’re afraid of a TBCC PvE experience repeat. Icecrown is probably the most accurate example due to its large community and game based off of 3.3.5. A fury warrior there, had no issues with LFD, queue could sometimes take a bit of time but was completely stress/rush free and was mining in Scholozar Basin.
If you’re someone who can make a group whilst doing that, congratulations - you’re not in the majority of people who are willing/can do that. You’re asking for people to change, that’s not realistic just because you can do it.
Really so YOU do not have a problem with having the LFD in wrath classic then. Clearly you are missing the argument as usual i guessing reading is not you strongest point.
haha okay i’ll bite. Where do i argue that i think i am not a reasonable or fairly intelligent person?
No i don’t because LFD isn’t going to be in wrath classic. I don’t see how i can have a problem with something that’s not going to exist.
This is 100% what they will do.
There is no way in hell we’ll be raiding ICC and there won’t be a dungeon finder.
It’s just too retarded otherwise.
Even most of the ppl against dungeon finder wouldn’t mind having it with the ICC patch as that is when it was originally introduced anyway.
We need RDF without cross-realm play. I am sick of having to spam chat to look for a group, use an addon to filter or scroll through the thousands of messages per second in the game channels.
My friends and I were looking forward to grouping and queueing a random dungeon together in Wrath and just see where it drops us in. It is all part of the experience.
On top of this, where will we be getting the extra emblem rewards from?
2x highest emblem tier for first random daily heroic
then 2x the emblem below for all subsequent ones
plus extra gold.
and alts get items from it as they’re levelling.
This is also going to impact finding groups for the less favourable dungeons where say tanks and healers don’t get their good loot from so they will be less inclined to join those runs, where as with RDF they are dropped in and kind of have to do them unless they want to get the debuff or miss out on the incentivised rewards from completing random runs.
People want to play and level in their own way, forcing everyone in to the open world or to sit in a channel spamming chat and not questing is a joke.
RDF was great for all play styles, those that wanted to break up questing, those that wanted to jump on to do a quick dungeon or two and those that wanted to spam dungeons to level.
Going to kill it before it even starts Blizz.
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I think random dungeon finder have a lot of good things that’s make worth to implement it.
- You can go low level instances when the expac have some months and only few people is leveling.
- You can go instances in low population servers.
- You can avoid spam and boring waitings and do things while lf a group.
But also is bad for community and social. So…
What if you add Random Dungeon Finder only for normal dungeons and not for HC?
Maybe not to instant teleport to the dungeon?
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Can you explain why it is bad for the community and social?
When trying to get a group the only interactions are:
Group leader: /4 “LF role dungeon”
player 1: “Inv”
player 2: “inv”
player 3: “inv”
player 3: “inv”
player 3: “inv”
Group leader /w player 3: “sorry full”
Except everyone on the server is doing this at the same time. So everyone’s messages in the chosen channel are getting spammed to no where which means more spam. Go on a high populated server and try reading LFG or World chat, moves faster than Asmongold’s Twitch chat.
Unless I’m in a dungeon with guild members and friends, chat is usually dead other than the occasional assignment or funny thing happens. Can still happen in RDF.
Honestly, those are suggestions that I would be able to live with.
They could go a step further and also make it limited to the realm you are playing on, that way you may be able to make some friends along the way! Can’t imagine that being bad for the social aspect when it’s only people on your own server.
Look. It won’t be like in tbc, tanks will be in higher supply. Especially if they change nothing about the dungeons. New class that can tank. Aggro will be a none issue so less stressful for inexperienced tanks. Duel Spec. The classes are more balanced. + they improve the group finder tool.
You’re a warrior. In wrath, i believe you, yes even you Venthess, can tank a hc dungeon. Just buy duel spec. Equip a Shield and by Metzan’s beard you can bring home that bacon and be done in time for dinner aswell. That’s right, Venthess. You can have your cake and eat it too. And who knows, you might even make a friend or two along the way. Because that’s what Classic is all about, baby! Kicking cheeks and makin’ friends!
Also i don’t believe for a second that the majority of wow player can’t make a group and farm mobs or nodes at the same time. Try it. It’s not hard.
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So, what’s the point here? This works for and against LFD. More tanks, therefore making groups will be better? More tanks, therefore LFD queues will be faster?
Thank you for this, I had no idea by choosing fury, that I actually meant to tank! I chose fury because I want to play fury. This point is so far off from what I originally said.
Of course, the majority could make a group. But they don’t. For every group leader you see spamming in /LFG, there are 10+ people whispering each one of them “inv”. It’s human nature you’re trying to fight here.
The point is that problems have real solutions and fictional solutions. Some people want to think there is this magical solution that will fix all our problems despite not thinking it through exactly. For some this magical solution is communism, for others it is Trump, and for alot of people on this forum, it is LFD. LFD will fix all our problems. tank services and tank shortages and dungeon boosting and on and on they go. Never asking how because they just want to believe it so badly. But life isn’t that easy.
Yes because why take matters into your own hands when it’s easier to just complain? Just remember that it indeed is your choice to wait an hour for group when and if that happens. The only person responsible is the man and or woman in the mirror. Not me. Not the classic community. Not Blizzard. Only the person in mirror. And remember when you see someone selling tanking services, that you are as much a contributor to that, as the person selling, and the person buying.
Clearly this comment show that you are neither reasonable and fairly intelligent. All your other comments as well show the exact same thing.
Again IT SHOULD BE IN WRATH and YOU have a problem with other people who WANT to have it in wrath. Man YOU really are slow and clearly you lack intelligence to comprehend English.
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No, no, no. You said i argue that i think i am reasonable and fairly intelligent. Not what you think.
You can want til the cows come home. Not my Problem.
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Clearly that is not what i said at all and i did not say what i think. So you still proven that i am right. Apparently you need to work on you reading comprehension.
Then you have no problem that the LFD should be in wrath.