No Warcraft without Christianity

It is infact, not. And quite bad roleplay to try and pretend any such belief is anything more than a handful of weirdos misinterpreting the light.

If you want to headcanon it as your human thinking this is the way the light is, go ahead. But to treat it as anything more than that, or as if its somehow official is wrong.

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No. Please see above confirmation of God.

You’ve posted no confirmations though.

Shaky Phillipe references God and is a Human. So there is a belief, at least among some, that there is one of the WC1 origins.

Having a character exclaim “Oh my god” in WoW is not a direct evidence of the christian God existing in the setting, are you actually mad?

Might as well say that Germany exist in WoW because some goblins spoke with a german accent in Cataclysm as well.

WoW uses modern slang and talk all the time. Oh my God is such a phrase.

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Absolutely none of the citation from this page link to anything that exists anymore. The pages are either blank, deleted (404’d). The only one that might be relevent is the link to ‘Angels’ which is mostly speculation / theory anyway.

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Oh my God comes from Christian origin as a form of prayer, later introduced as exclamation. If he had said ‘الله أكبر’ we could summarise he is also speaking of Abrhamic reference too.

Although you might not understand it’s origin doesn’t mean Blizzard isn’t aware or the writers. It can quite easily harken back to Humanity having different origin theories in their religion.

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Just gonna put you away to the shadow realm. You’re so illogical it hurts.

Nothing was lost on this decision.

I’m getting legitimatly the same vibes as I got from back when Marood sent me links to K-K-K rallies on youtube as his “evidence” to why racism towards coloured people in WoW was okay because “Humans do this, and they are human.”

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Thing is, mentions of god in Warcraft are, as has been pointed out several times now all old and have not been mentioned in a long time.

Speaking of biblical proportions doesn’t really say much. Nor does the odd NPC saying “Oh my god”.

Cannot recall seeing this having happened in-game though. Sounds like something devs would use to describe the gist of Dalaran, just like Wacken is often called “the Mecca of heavy metal”. It doesn’t imply islamic inspiration, but rather describes something that is central to X.

Right, I’ll give you that one. The point still stands though: There’s been no reference to a abrahamic god in Wow since WC2.

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I’m sorry you have issues with it. But it’s perfectly reasonable for people to RP a more biblical divine creator God if they so wish, as there is justification in the game to. I am just agreeing with the OP that there are Abrahamic inspiration in the game.

There are many Gods in WoW all taken inspiration from different works (Lovecraft for example, Viking mythology, Greek etc). I don’t see why it’s so unusual that there can be a more Abrahamic aligned one in the present. We literally have a Odin with one eye, with a Valhalla and a Hel with Valkyries. But for whatever reason, an Abrahamic - which is also referenced - inspired God and themes is out of the question.

Until Blizzard actively denounces it, then I think it’s perfectly reasonable to do it.

It was some quest text.

WC3 states some believe that the creation of the universe was from a single all powerful entity. Likewise Day of the Dragon novel – 2001 references God.

In Wrath of the Lich King Brigitte Abbendis believes the Holy Light is a God in reference to WC1 set of beliefs; specifically praying, good deeds and work. Even WoWpedia invokes this call-back to Northshire abbey. In fact, in general, the belief page just further references Abrahamic names, mythology throughout the game. So I don’t see the issue, I just think it reinforces it.


Before it was actually retconned in the RPG explained these conflicting ideas by saying there were multiple theories within the Churches of the Light and while that explanation isn’t official anymore it is nice flavour text for roleplay if you want to claim you’re a priest who believes in a Abrahamic style God of the Holy Light.

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I don’t personally subscribe to the notion of a singular godly figure existing in a similar vain to the ‘God’ of Christian belief (as per the comparisons made in the thread) actually existing lorewise, however you can also argue that whether you think this godly being actually does exist or not is largely irrelevant simply by the definitions of faith and belief in the first place

It’s one of those instances where because anyone could feasibly believe in anything without proof, as that is the foundation of faith in the first place, any character in-character could believe more or less anything and it couldn’t really be discredited because it wouldn’t have to ‘canonically’ exist lore-wise for them to believe in something. So, while I personally think Blizzard have likely abandoned any notion of a singular and true “god”, it’s also still pretty feasible for a character to believe something like that or literally anything else if they really wanted to

:man_shrugging:

A character could IC think that sure, but it falls apart when people OOC also claim that this is the case for the entire belief of all humans and also a OOC core of the world.

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There is a cheese in WoW called Alterac Swiss… does that mean, canonically, Switzerland exists in WoW?

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https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_pop_culture_references_in_Warcraft

All origins of these things listed now exist in WoW IC.

I feel like the notion of god in Warcraft’s ancient past has kind of morphed over the years into the Light, IIRC light worship at some point (probably still does) consider the light to be an entity with its own will that it tries to enforce rather then ‘just’ a cosmic force.

If your character wants to believe something go ahead, but I feel like if you’d RP God in the christian context actually being real you might as well just go with worshipping the light as a benevolent entity with its own will rather then a cosmic force due to the overlap

Yes, indeed. The capital of Alterac, Alterac City, is otherwise known as Bern.

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Let’s look at the facts here:

  • Mountain-dwelling
  • Perfidious nature
  • Their capital is currently occupied by Ogre warlords

Need I go on? The Swiss Menace in WoW has been tolerated for far, far too long. Danuser needs to comment on this.

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We must be vigilant. You never know who could turn out to be Swiss these days.

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Deatholme is Swiss. I have it on good authority.

Do not throw around these accusations lightly.

Now if you don’t mind, I just need to check the balance in my offshore account…

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