Valley you aren’t even a worthwhile person
Absolute serpent mentality here 
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I made my comment based on prior experience. If this is not the case then I’m happy to be surprised. But I have yet personally not once seen any discussion where someone talks about how “The west & Christianity is falling apart”(in any way its phrased) not end up going down that route.
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So many religions form wow.
Paganism, Norse things, Greek.
The latter two in various Titanic cultures and their operations.
WoW is built on so many different cultures, religions and histories, to focus on the Abrahamic side seems a bit odd.
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Let’s avoid directly attacking Queteron, please. Give him the opportunity to speak for himself and explain the points that he made, and why they’re relevant to this video game.
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Yeah, I’m fine with that. Not gonna make any more speculations until then!
Read the bold. And the reply I gave to you.
True. This is the best take.
Literally most races all have different parts of them taken from different cultural and religious backgrounds.
For example, someone previously talking about the Orcs inspiration by Turkic/Mongolian/Finnish paganism/Tengri. And then you have so many places clearly inspired by paganism.
In Shadowlands alone:
Bastion is clearly mythological greek, and Ardenweald clearly plays into celtic mythology, especially Irish.
WoW’s races are very often inspired by real life culture and religion.
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Based on my understanding of what Queteron said, this thread is not about in-game cultures which are inspired by Christianity, it is about the “themes” of Christianity which have (supposedly) become more absent in this game as time has passed.
Themes such as…
For all of its flaws though, I personally wouldn’t say that Shadowlands is devoid of any of those concepts - nor would I say that any of these themes are exclusively Christian.
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But those themes are present in many other religions anyway!
Heaven/hell, light and dark, it’s a common theme in most societies, regardless of what religion they come from.
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I agree completely. Many religions indeed make up WoW and elements of Christianity are used to explain only part of WoW’s expansive faith system.
The real issue with WoW’s narrative collapse is not an unholy expansion driving the game away from its Christian roots but because they had us become intimately close with many forces considered to be overarching gods. The light vs darkness battle is still there, as stated not exclusive to a single religion, and the light is not painted as a corrupting force even though the Naaru have been shown to be capable of being as misguided as Humans or the Draenei of AU Draenor. In the end it really is just a matter of a narrative based around providing increasingly spectacular raid encounters rapidly burning through all of the cosmic forces and power expansions entire expansions were once dedicated to observing how the races of Azeroth responded to their threats whilst also fighting each other.
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Light and dark and heaven and hell are not the same theme in Greek or Nordic mythology as in christian traditions, though. Even their most worshipped gods were not “good” in any sense of the word, even by their own accounts. (See: Zeus, Poseidon, Thor.)
Chaos and Order might be a better word?
There are still other religions with the same themes.
I was referring to in game cultures more with that.
I don’t think that the Greek gods can be described as a force of order in the sense that WoW’s Titans might be.
What is the definition of light and darkness, as according to Christian tradition, that is presently absent from the Warcraft franchise but could previously be found in it?
They still had/brought a kind of structure and hierarchy with them in the myths. Compared to Chronos and the Titans who were more chaotic forces of nature with little restraints.
They’re hardly a force of order. They have also committed follies akin to those of the Greek Gods. They are creators and wardens, but not infallible.
Laughs in Uldir.
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Which was essentially empty complaint because just because the light was inherently good didn’t mean it made everyone good: See scarlets.
The real aim of the complaint was obviously paladin and priest characters that never wanted to do anything bad.
No, no, they haven’t. WoW is far too PG for that, thankfully.
I think it comes down to the current nihilistic state of the Warcraft universe, as Vashava formulates it, far better than I can.
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