No, we don't want RDF! We really don't want that 🤯

ALL those things should come with ICC not on launch!!!

Explain me why double spec, fly 150%, 1.5sc casting should be with ICC.

Because this is where it was in Wrath. And we’ll never get the authentic Wrath experience with all of 3.3.0 implemented from day one.

Yes, by definition. You are also cherry-picking. And straw manning. I don’t want any of those things at launch. I am ok with RDF along last phase just as in wotlk.

So you’re just cherry picking the features you like. I could make the same argument to having ICC at start since it was also part of 3.3

Please can you learn the game or stay on your Vanilla ?
Double spec was implemented in 3.1 and same for the mount or 3.2 maybe.

So you want a real Wotlk Classic experience ?
But Blizzard will not provide you this experience because EVERY mecanics and parameters are from 3.3.5 except RDF.

Did you read ???

On Wotlk Classic ONLY Dg/raids content are LOCKED, EVERY mecanics/parameters are AVAILABLE, EXCEPT RDF.

100% contradiction

Yes pls.

Yes because RDF has no place in Classic it all. It’s destroys the social dynamic when running dungeons. So that’s why. I am however ok with it along ICC as it was then. I am not the one demanding changes.

Ahh, dual spec :wink: Yes that was earlier. Come with Ulduar and cost 1000 G still Thanks!
I re-phrase what I said: I’d like the patches to contain the same things, game-changes, “Quality” of Life features, dungeons, raids … you name it, as they did in the original Wrath.

I am most probably going to stay in Era out of disgust with this mis-mayhem-mash they made of Wrath.

I don’t care about the fact you don’t want RDF that’s not the point, you didn’t answered about the fact that the only one mecanics/parameter is not day one is RDF.

So the argument “RDF is not until ICC” is wrong, because double spec is day one instead until Ulduar

Good, because Wotlk seems not a game for you.

Not for you either, it seems for Wrath Classic is supposed to be a game for social players.

Yes because you all came in, crying and now Blizzard want to transform our Wotlk in Vanilla like, thank you guys.
Just stay on your Classic that you let it empty and leave us alone

I am pretty sure there are many things not available in game. Trading card code items etc.

RDF was implemented along ICC and have a huge effect on the SOCIAL DYNAMIC. No other feature have that kind negative effect on the social dynamic. Get it?

RDF has no place in Classic at all. It alters the social dynamics. It goes against the design philosophy of Classic.

Get it?

All anti-RDF arguments are outdated - WoW Classic / Burning Crusade Classic Discussion - World of Warcraft Forums (blizzard.com)

Get it ?

Do you understand that you are making a straw man argument?

I don’t want any of those things at launch.

Get it?

I want any of those things at launch.

Get it ?

I really hope that you will make a post to cry here and say “Oh god even with no RDF the game has nothing social it’s not the Wotlk Classic that Blizzard said”

Rofl just because you keep repeating it everywhere it doesn’t get more true. It’s in your head because you want to blame RDF.

Yea, good luck and have fun with that.

Yea this is precisely why I said unless they officially changes their minds before launch.
There’s no reason to go back and try to catch up even if they come out and add it halfway in. I’d rather just keep progressing my char where I am.

Exactly. Athough I fear at that point it might be to late. That they wont be getting all those lost players back again.

I haven’t seen any other result anywhere no.

You’re aware that Firemaw is open for char creation again right? While not open for transfer to it.
Why do you think that is?
Quite simple really: They want to milk as much $$ out of new char boosts and then later open transfers again to make more $$ of all those wanting their chars on the same server, be it alts or mains.

Lmao so you honestly don’t think people like me, a good bit past 25, don’t use reddit? :rofl:

And what about polls held on places like MMO-Champin for one, a major gaming and WOW fan site?
Because their poll about RDF was about the same, approximately 70% for RDF and 30% against. But I suppose you’ll find a way to dismiss that one too, and all the other ones with approx the same result.

And you claim to do? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Oh god forbid. We can’t talk to strangers. :laughing:

Yes I am. Because

You just wait and see…
For the sake of the game, I would love to be wrong. Sadly I do firmly believe I am not.

This might very well be true. But out of all those people, how many will just play less and less and eventually simply quietly quit when it gets to obnoxiously hard to find/make groups? I’ll give it a few months until we start seeing that.

And that is also why I do wish Blizzard had sent out an official poll. How many of those, now silently not caring, would prefer to see RDF over not having it? My bet it’s loads of people.

Lol yea, funny that they link that for vanilla classic and use it for “no RDF in wotlk”.
I too believe that cheering would have turned into a major buuuuu.
Again, that’s why I would have loved to see an official poll from Blizzard.

Stop trolling.
It should be at phase 2. Timewise just shortly before the same time as in og wotlk, which would make most sense since they aren’t really following original patch cycles.

Speaking about contradicting yourself…

But then why aren’t you crying about Dual spec being in at launch?
Cherrypicking much?

Get it?

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Yes and that makes you a hypocrite.

No you don’t.

I actually do.

Because it doesn’t affect the social dynamic in a negative way. In fact, it makes running dungeons a better social experience.

I didn’t ask for that though. I am not the one asking for changes.

Do you now?
That’s a bit contradicting with the things that you have been saying…

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Yes a I want Wotlk Classic released as an exact copy of how it was, patch for patch.

Do you?

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