Since weâre talking about the 2008 version and not the 2004 version (and that is still available for your enjoyment by the way), nobody gives a beeswax about how you think the version us Wrath Babbies fell in love with should be more similar to the 2004 version.
Classic exists as a denouncement of decades of badly designed WoW and the stacked mistakes that are currently wrecking Retail. Classic+ should exist as an alternative to avoid the mistakes made by the past.
Ease of access to dungeons is not one of those mistakes. What Cataclysm did to the world and leveling was. The game is still paying the price and the dividends for making the level cap 85 in Cataclysm.
True before TBCC nobody where sure if there would be anything past WoW Classic. But once TBCC was released and Blizzard also introduced all the features this expansion introduced at some point or another, people started to assume WotLK Classic will happen too and it will bring all the features it had at some point.
When WoW Classic started Blizzard didnât say anything about where Classic will be going and what they will or wonât include into Classic.
Until the announcement of no RDF in WotLK Classic it was therefore logical to believe they would just continue ,what they did with Vanilla and TBC, to give fans to play a version of that game, that is as close as possible to what it originally was. Just so fans could relieve nostalgia and play on official servers instead of private servers.
With WotLK they left that course, because they decided to completely remove a feature, that was part of WotLK and an feature a lot of people were looking forward to.
Assuming their plan was to have a WoW version without RDF all along is just wrong. You only say this, because you know what you know now. Before the announcement of WotLK there was nothing that pointed into that direction.
And I want to play WotLK Classic that getâs the same treatment Vanilla and TBC got. I donât want a butchered version where features were cut and and new things are added.
So why should your wishes be more important than mine? Especially as everything hints, that there are more people wishing what I do, than there are people wishing what you do.
Also those design pillars have only been ever communicated with the announcement of WotLK Classic. I played WoW Classic and I played TBC Classic and I have every right to tell Blizzard, that their design pillars go into a direction, where I wonât play the game anymore. Sure they can go on and ignore all the people posting everywhere about the RDF. But than they will have to live with the consequences.
You are mistaken if you think there is one huge Classic community that completely agrees what Classic should be like.
Vanilla, TBC and WotLK all have been very different and have very different fans, that loved the game for very different things.
I for example donât even care about Vanilla and TBC. I just played those to pass three time until WotLK Classic comes and to prepare my character. To farm reputation, mounts, attunements. I just wanted to recreate the character I had when I started WotLK back then. WotLK was all I wanted to play.
But you liked Vanilla, TBC or both, had your nostalgia experience and now you want to deny us our nostalgia?!
Because I have more than two brain cells to rub together and an insight on how patching in Wrath worked, I also understand that it wouldnât be easy to port the 3.3.3 version of the RDF as the start of Wrath Classic because the system was built to include four addicional dungeons that canât be available from the start due to how certain world elements (like ICC and the Tournament grounds) have to be changed before hand to include them.
To better match the content cadence of Wrath, we canât have RDF from the start. But that is not Blizzard giving you anti-RDF people reason, itâs just how the original Wrath worked.
You canât because itâs disabled for 15 minutes and even when it gets activated you will need the others to vote for the kick too. Itâs not as easy as you make it out to be.
In a regular group it is that easy. A leader can just kick you right before the endboss and invite his friend.
This just shows, how little thought you put in your arguments or how few you know about the system you try to discredit.
This is just your opinion. Mine is different. I think it will actually improve the community, because it brings people together, allows people to play the game, that couldnât before and will get rid of gating.
Then why do you make obviously wrong statements on the board here?
Iâm terribly sorry for getting the 15 min timer wrong. Can you ever forgive me for trying to discuss the matter at hand without accusing others to be clueless?
You pretend as if the 15 minute timer wasnât a big deal, but with the short dungeons of WotLK it makes a huge difference. Often you will be done with the dungeon, before vote kick was even enabled.
And you also completely ignore, that itâs a vote kick. Therefore itâs not as easy as you make it out to be.
They subsequently nerfed all of the content though. âWow, Dungeons are hardâ was very short-lived. The WLK âzerg-festâ he talks about is very much alive and well in retail today and it is trash content. It started with WLK and was, in my opinion, the worst aspect of the expansion.
If you could have challenging content and an automated grouping device then why did they not make one for Mythic dungeons?
But would u be ok if WOTLK had RDF for easy heroics and Blizzard added Mythic version of dungs with the normal LFG tool ? So we scrubs can have our dungs and elite players can assemble cooperative and social interactive groups for Mythics
From my time on retail anything that was below 10M was somewhere on level of tbc/wotlk heroics âŚ
One of my things that I often said, was adding 0-5 into rdf, it would be absolutely zero issue âŚ
Problem is people suck, I am only retrospectively (damn is that a word?) learning that cataclysm had âhardâ dungeons ⌠like we had RDF from start of cata and it was absolute cheese âŚ
And dont forget you could make those Ilvl checks, like you have for raid finder, meaning you need specific ilvl for specific tiers of mythics âŚ
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the most important thing âŚ
you could always make premade group and just que for random mythic finder âŚ
