There is no necessity on this realm for players or guilds that have 0 intention to engage in roleplay. In fact, the realm will be better if we get rid of them all.
edit sorry, misquoted again.
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And weâve already been through this earlier where we actually asked what youâre trying to argue when these statements 100% agree with what weâre saying
Youâre continuing to post as if thereâs an argument to be made here but in fact youâve now just shown a second time that you agree with the majority here, so again, genuinely not quite sure what youâre getting at
Obilot is⌠BASED�
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to which i had the brilliant response of:
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Just stop posting Angelus. Go do something productive for once
Thereâs non-guild raiding communities for roleplayers. I just joined one on Chieun (after being in it on Kaiyu for a bit) and itâs very nice.
I think basing entire guilds around just content isnât really right, because that just ends up inviting players who donât care about RP at all.
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Non-guild raidgroups used to be the standard back in classic and TBC, because people understood that non-RP, raid only guilds were disruptive to the realm.
Not sure where that understanding has gone. Besides, communities make it far easier to set up an inter-server raidgroup. You donât even have to be on AD to be a part of such a group.
It is just a matter a common sense and respect tbh.
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What RP guild on AD gets Cutting Edge?
The implication alone that a roleplaying guild flat out couldnât achieve that is just false
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Speaking for myself here at least, I like raiding mythic but I find that it takes too much time away from RP, especially the RP peak hours of ~8-22. Itâs simply a question of priorities.
While it was IRL circumstances that made me have to quit an otherwise very pleasant mythic guild back in Legion, the above is why I have not come back.
Who cares, really?
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I do. I can roleplay without a guild, I canât get cutting edge without one.
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He does, apparently. Which is perfectly fine. Cutting Edge isnât my cup of tea, but if someone decides that they want to pursue it, then I donât see why not.
Of course an RP guild could achieve Cutting Edge, no doubt. But how many RP guilds (even big ones) that are mainly focused on RPing during the evenings are going to invest the disproportionate amount of time it takes to finish mythic NâZoth?
They could, but that doesnât mean the overwhelming majority of RP guilds would.
I didnât say they canât. I asked you which RP guild has it.
That to my knowledge no dedicated RP guild on the server has Cutting Edge should show you that youâre wrong. Itâs incredibly hard to balance both a raiding team and a roleplaying guild. Both of those are a full time ââjobââ. Expecting both is unrealistic and Iâd say impossible.
Thereâs nothing wrong with having a raiding guild as long as you roleplay/donât hurt roleplay.
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I still think those have a more subtle issue of being inviting even to people who fundamentally do not RP, which furthers the already systemic issue on AD.
Non-guild raiding communities for roleplayers can be just as âhardcoreâ but have a very different presentation.
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Thatâs like saying Vulperan and Pandaren guilds promote furry fetishes by existing. You canât blame a guild for what guild members might do.
I call bull. If you know a non guild raiding community that can get Nâzoth cutting edge Iâm game, though.
A Mythic guild takes a lot of effort to lead and organise. You need to be constantly recruiting, monitor peopleâs schedules and gear and then you have 20+ people to actually organise during the raid. To do that with a PUG seems nuts. The only way that works is if the content is super easy or the people in the PUG are already Cutting Edge players themselves and donât need a chaperone to lead them. ( which in a pug is⌠pretty much unheard of unless itâs spearheaded by some Method offshoots )
if you wanna make a raiding guild, give the guild an ic purpose and act as a band of small-time heroes tackling the current expansion threat
then just raid on raid nights, and rp every other night
not rly hard
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As I said before, it is almost impossible to have a guild that aims for both Cutting Edge and actual Roleplaying arcs and events. No guild leader is going to take that workload, managing either of those tasks is already a lot of work and the realistic scenario is that theyâll just burn out.
People that donât RP regularly often finds themselves running around to âtake a look at the rpâ when they donât have anything to do. And that is just really annoying. You are in the middle of a convo and someone runs un and just stands next to you for no reason.
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can delegate officers to work on raid management and other officers that focus on rp management
and then have the gm on the top checking and solidifying everything
it would not be an absolutely horrible idea to abandon some rp nights for extra raid time
Even if you could do that, the amount of people who can/are willing to roleplay several events a week AND ALSO Mythic Raid ( which takes 2-3 nights a week ) is extremely low. Itâs just not feasible to combine the two.
And letâs not forget that not every player is capable of being Cutting Edge. Itâs not exactly faceroll.