Also it basically had to be Cross-Faction content because the only content 10.2.5 gave people was Gilneas and Bel’Ameth, one whole faction (60%~ of players) would not have gotten any content in 10.2.5 if it was Alliance-only. Like, c’mon, use some sensible common sense here to see the reasoning why its cross-faction.
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I didn’t mind having Velen requesting a random hero of the Alliance for it. It would have been better IMO, if they instead made it Draenei only and spend a little more time on those moments of reflection about the tragic loss of Argus to their Man’ari kin.
Then again I’m firmly in the camp of “Yo, I don’t think Man’ari being tolerated in the fold is cool.” Blizzard is just saying “Yes, this is good, a positive addition.” but if you were to ask them to elaborate, they wouldn’t be able to.
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On a player-level I agree. Like I, as a player of World of Warcraft, can see this and acknowledge that.
On a character level however we can’t know that. Our characters don’t know there’s a writing team dictating everything they’ll face in the future, every possibility is open, and while I certainly think it’s arguable that the Horde and Alliance are trying to mend things for a more peaceful future, it’s also just as arguable for our characters to go “well we tried this before, hopefully it goes better this time.” or “this is just a rouse, get ready for them to betray us,” or similar rhetorics.
I think the other question would be why - what reason would a horde-alligned character, forsaken or otherwise - have to place themselves in Gilneas? There’s absolutely reasons for a character personally to do so, but in terms of facing off the scarlet threat? That’s gone. Maybe aiding in rebuilding? Possibly, but it’s not something we see in-game. There isn’t a need for them to be there en mass. and so any sort of presence regardless of size could plausibly be taken as a threat, either infiltration or sizing up the armies or preparing to cause havoc.
Also just taking a look around, none of the NPCs seem to have Horde specific dialogue which is a bit disappointing, but also kind of expected given taht I think it being cross-faction was more of a “let’s include Horde players in this” decision rather than an idea that started from the beginning.
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It’s one of those where I am okay if it would have just been an OOC cosmetic while still making it very clear in story that they aren’t accepted.
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Same with that God forsaken Fel-Nature Warglaive. 
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On a character level mine are more convinced we will lose yet another city to the Horde war machine within a few years as they have experienced that happening several times already.
On a player level I have 0 expectations for such a thing occurring.
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I think we should follow what we see in-game for Gilneas.
So, if anyone in RP is Champion of Azeroth, General of the Draenor expedition, Speaker of the Horde, Mawwalker and hero of the dragonflights, slayer of Fyrakk, N´zoth, Jailer, Argus and Kil´Jaeden, I guess this one person can come to Gilneas and roam freely.
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Someone out there roleplaying an elderly human from Stormwind who’s managed to survive the initial razing of it by the Horde and escaped to Lordaeron, only to have it be taken by the scourge and fleeing to Theramore.
To then have Theramore blown up, still somehow surviving and settling into Teldrassil.
Everyone watches on in horror as the champion of Azeroth opens their mouth to advertise their raid boost for 300k every two minutes, an unstoppable telepathic delivery.
Also the Champion of Azeroth just said a slur in trade chat.
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And if that man ever learned about who was the first Lich King he’d know that every one of those events were caused by Orcs.
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Orcs really are the gift that keeps on giving.
The gift being disasters and ruined cities.
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A gift is a gift.
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I’m inclined to agree.
Granted, I would still like to make sense of the game mechanic (which I will address below), but I’m inclined to think that all official ties with the Horde and the Alliance
I’d like to know what gameplay reasons would there be for keeping guards friendly to the Horde.
There is no content to do there once the quest is over, unlike, say, the WOTLK Dalaran, which is an actual hub with services, portals, and NPCs. And of course it is also stuck in time, in a moment in which the city was friendly to both faction.
The sole problem I see is that it would add too much phasing, in that one would have the new Gilneas with Horde-hostile NPCs locked behind a questchain or something like that, thus being RP-unfriendly. Because quite frankly there isn’t a single benefit outside of world exploration that would make Gilneas’ guards being Horde-friendly a mechanic-only feature. Which isn’t that good as explanation, especially if we consider the changing dynamic between the Horde and the Alliance.
No, no, wait. On that bit, I agree with Obahar, fully: if the DM of the event says “this event is for Alliance-only”, then one should not come there as Horde. Period. Nope. You’re going out of your line.
Ultimately, the DM is the king of the event, and coming uninvited on a Horde alt is just not very respectful towards them, to say the least.
And this is a whole different thing, which refers to the current lore. As I have already hinted above, I don’t think the “we are back in the same old truce” argument works.
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Gnomeregan is finally taken back and is a functioning city…
The Monkey Paw curls
It’s only for the Horde to use.
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I accept the gift that is the sheer size of the orcs as shown in the Warcraft movie and will forever cherish said gift.
Leper gnomes are a part of the forsaken after all!
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This item can only be fished out of waters around Gilneas City (and apparently Keel Harbor) during and after you finish the questline, meaning that Horde players would have to deal with guards attacking them if they wanted to get this cosmetic reward that is cross-faction.
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They’re not going to step on you, no matter how much you hype them up!
At this point, do we want it back? We got a cooler and bigger place now that isn’t full of radiation and Trogg dung.
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That was pretty much what is was, yep.
OOC, I main a horde for all my PvE content, and Dragonflight have been leaning heavy towards Alliance when they could have done both!
That said, I’m not upset about that but alas, the way they go about it is like getting an empty cup and say ‘Cheers’. Then in stead of actually giving you a drink or, admit they forgot to buy them in the first place, they awkwardly say nothing about it.
They should have, in stead given Horde a questline to clean up more of Undercity and do some progress there 
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For the sake of doing the quest chain. I know you’re the resident contrarian but even Meron explained this before.
Just because Blizzard didn’t switch the NPCs for Green to Red doesn’t mean it’s suddenly OK for you to ignore the text speech of Calia and Lilian as they explicity say they’ll retire from Gilnean lands.
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