I wish I could find paladins like this IC, jesus. It would be so rich of a discussion and a confrontation.
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Thereâs an important quote about this whole kind of issue with in this case, the city not having horde-hostile guards, thatâs part of a larger snippet I often like to link.
âAt a certain level thereâs so many components of this game that everyone loves as gameplay components but they totally break the world ⊠itâs just one of those things that you have to suck up as a necessary gameplay convention but, you know, thereâs a hundred of those. Things that I wish didnât exist but do to facilitate the gameplay.â
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7fVTabpyf8&t=1336s
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What happened to affecting Outland anyway?
The World of Warcraft is still broken as a whole since Cataclysm.
There were a dozen of different arguments, one being that, yes.
I donât exactly remember the details, but I do think this was the case: if I remember correctly, Delaryn shows up in 10.2 and everyone is surprised about her being there. Ultimately she helps, and earns a place among the living.
However it should be noted that:
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During the argument we made, Delaryn was specifically a forsaken dark ranger, and stated that other dark rangers went to try their luck with the Alliance. We never knew anything about those.
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The argument surrounded those dark rangers, who havenât been adressed to this day, so for all we know it may even be a soft retcon from Blizzardâs side, which just forgot about them.
I also do. I donât think adventurers have 500 mounts and I donât think I killed Onyxia during WotLK.
But it has become progressively more difficult to distinguish what belongs to the canon and what does not, to the point that Blizzard often makes mistakes themselves.
They are specifically talking about demons, not
which are a whole other topic, considering there has been a major change that wasnât there before.
Edit.
Hmm. Overall, I think two points are making me change my mind. One, is Vixiâs quote - the Hordeâs official stance is to give some room to Gilneas, so strictly speaking theyâd keep a low profile. And the other, is the analogy with the dark ranger: perhaps as of now it is too soon to reach the conclusion that Gilneas would openly accept Horde inside their territory, and we should abide to the previous status quo, for actual Horde in Gilneas we will have to wait for further story developments.
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The way they did this in BelâAmeth has alot of natural storytelling too. The outcasts of Kaldorei society (Darkfallen, Death Knights, warlocks etc) are welcome. BelâAmeth is a new home for them.
But they also specifically have their little Sanctuary far away from the rest of the city, hidden away out of sight. Probably for for their own sake and for those who still struggle with their nature.
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I still hold out hope theyâll let Shandris enact her original plan:
Step 1: rebuild their lands and their people
Step 2: tske revenge when their numbers have been replenished.
But then I saw her buddying with Voss(apparently everyone is bffs with Voss now) and I knew it was a fools hope 
Had I still had a Gnome character. I would have 100% wanted it back. Mechagon can go get wrecked with their bizzaro Junkyard Mechagnomes
Strange how all the places the Alliance and Horde need to rebuild were destroyed by the Horde⊠
I mean its in the same vein as Blizzard giving Wildhammer customisations to the Bronzebeard, Eredar customisations to the Draenei and High Elf customisations to the Void Elves to allow Alliance players to RP those races, so why not for the Darkfallen customisations, I suppose 
(We have yet to see an Alliance-aligned Thalassian Darkfallen, though, so it still makes no sense unlike Darkfallen Kaldorei)
Yes, but far later then what we argued for(only recently) instead of right after the Reclamation of Lordaeron, it still took a whole expansion for them to truely rejoin.
So you might be right in the future, but for now, whatâre argueing for is, simple put, headcanonâŠ(as Telaryn stated)
She never stated this, though? They were free to rejoin, but it was never implied or stated some actually did?
Now if Darkfallen, Warlock and Demon Hunter RPers would get the hint and stop ruining my Highborneâs view on the villageâŠ
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I am leaving right now so I canât find the quote but she stated a group of dark rangers had already left the Forsaken to try and reach - I think it was Tyrande? - and see if they would be welcomed back.
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People who complained that Jaina was a Mary Sue needs to look at Voss nowdays.
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I always complained about Voss. 
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This is correct.
"It was a fair disguise, but I saw at once that you were not who you claimed to be.
Regardless, you risked your life to aid us. I will not forget that.
There are those among the kaldorei raised by Sylvanasâ valâkyr who wish to return to their own. If Tyrande would have them back, they are free to go. The rest will be welcome in the ranks of the dark rangers.
In recognition for your service to us, I offer this gift."
And as we see now in Emerald Dream and BelâAmeth, they have been welcomed back. Delaryn is present more than once, including at the ceremony for BelâAmeth, as are a couple of other Dark Rangers. And then there is the already mentioned Sanctuary for outcasts.
Jaina, Voss and Calia truly maximize the mary sue stat in every conceivable way.
I think what moridunum was questioning was whether any of them actually went. There was a wish to return, yes, and they were free to try, yes, but we donât know if any of them even actively tried pre-emerald dream. Delaryn isnât one of those who scurried off already back then, as I recall. She popped up in the dream alongside several others with the creature Voss.
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RE: Horde in Gilneas
Iâm fairly sure Calia herself said that the Horde/Forsaken will pull out to let the Gilneans and Alliance have Gilneas to themselves.
So
I donât exactly get the whole back and forth a few hours ago about whether or not itâs alright for Horde to be chilling in Gilneas or not.
Sounds to me that the first Kaldorei Dark Rangers only rejoined alongside Delaryn then. So free to go, but it seems that Tyrande did not actually want them up until recently?
(Unless I am misunderstanding it?)
Theyâre all three examples of very poor character writing yeah.
That is probably the case yeah, in that they only joined around the time of DF. The quest quote was still when Tyrande was full on rage-mode and the dark avatar and all that, so she was probably less happy to let them then.
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The Reclaiming Lordaeron scenario had that one DR lady iirc who said that any Kaldorei DR who wished to return to their kin can TRY, they are allowed to but with no guarantee theyâll be accepted, I think in more recent times they have been tentatively allowed to be in Belâameth but on the outskirts/their own little camp with the DKs.
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Itâs what happens when your only idea of a good Warcraft narrative is a story that conveniently starts with oMaHA bEacH and ends in Berlin and you have to come up with a new way of telling it every single time 
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Nah, the qoute was after she banished Sylvanas to the Shadow Realm and she was âcuredâ of theNight Warriorâs influence by the power of friendshipđ©
My bad then!
Still what a wasted storyline that was.
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RP whoever you want wherever you want at your own risk, just donât attend events if youâre not invited. Itâs just polite. No need to argue lore with the host - you donât know their reasoning nor do you need to know their reasoning. If you want a neutral event, make one yourself.
My petty personal truth, now. A plausible counterargument would of course be âoh but my character is usually in this spot and they canât claim it as theirs so I should be able to RP hereâ which is true, but you need to ask yourself: would you have been IC on that character in that exact spot if it were not for the event? Would you be sitting there alone, on a regular Tuesday? Probably not. Oversee your intentions, please, and donât take advantage of peoples good faith⊠Your âcompletely separate occasionâ could likely wait for a better date.
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Itâs too petty, I canât see it, make it bigger!!!