Mage tower is irrelevant for m+.
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Nah, just because you learnt 5 mage tower mechanics, doesn’t really mean, that you will know the 50 mechanics and the ideal dungeon path in a +20 key. 
For me for example +20 is too annoying to do, because I wanna relax after studying.
The mage tower is not showing any relevant experience or knowledge for a dungeon.
Is it really? Knowing who and when to interrupt, to CC, to move out of stuff, to change your focus target constantly and being aware of your surroundings in irrelevenat for m+?
There is no doubt that Blizzard have ignored OP specs in M+ until it was too late. They were going to do some nerfs next week but have now pushed them back the S4. Warlock and Surv will be looked at then.
Warlocks are buffed this Season aren;t they?
Well if you think about it inviting a lower ilvl Lock/Monk/Surv/Dk this season and leave out the other classes is not so fair.In pick up groups at least.
well 10 mins ago, I got kicked from a +2 due to wrong spec, so
How is the mage tower telling you what you need to interrupt or cc? Even dungeon A is not relevant for dungeon B.
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Yeah, every time I sign up and play arcane mage, I immediately get kicked and have people saying “play fire you griefer” 
Dont try to tell me that you have researched every single boss mechanic and the ideal path all by yourself?
Because that would just be a lie, you like 99% of the playerbase went on youtube, watched the guide before entering the dungeon, downloaded MDT addon, imported a route made by a professional player and just went for it =)
Yes. The mage tower isn’t the dungeon you’re trying to do. Just because I’ve done the bear mage tower doesn’t mean I’m good at tanking… Say, plaguefall. I’m horrible at tanking plaguefall.
I also blame sites like wowhead and others who show dps rankings all the time, there are many who steer blindly at them, so even if you are a realy good M+ and could get 3k ranking, you will have a much harder time to get a group becuse you aint play the fotm class.
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Thats the thing, try playing Magetower without a single addon, its not telling you anything.
Once a gnome shadow priest who invited me in a group, inspected me. he/she did not like my legendary(Season 2) and said exactly this:
-What’s this( linking my legendary) and kicked me after.(lol).I laugh now but it was a shock at that moment.
There are many empty heads out there to deal with.
thanks for your input which is based on a huge experience 
I never watched a dungeon/raid guide ever in shadowlands. I just hosted my own keys, and learnt the dungeons going from +0 to whatever key I have (I always downrank it from 20 to 15-19, because I wanna chill while getting the best gear)
if you don’t mind i like my actionbars and hotkey setup.
Nag and I got removed from a +15 group earlier. We just queued up again.
It happens.
Equally we’ve taken loads of hunters without knowing what spec they were. I’m just glad if they know they can remove enrage, bloodlust, feign certain mechanics etc
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Make your own group then. Majority of my dungeons done at 20+ are my keys because people are like “NUH-UH, NOT A RESTO SHAMAN OR HOLY PRIEST”.
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Ofc its innacurate. Will always be. Yet a flawed score is better tha no score “lets just flip a coin” system. 