Month passed and yet horde players still whine about fair system ![:joy:](https://d1bg94bbsh66ji.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/joy.png?v=6" ":joy:")
smh.
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It will never be fair while one side gets triple AP and XP in game that requires you to farm it.
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dont start again or i swear ill bully you! 
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You are already for 40, why would you still care about AP 
I stopped caring the second I hit 38 lol.
I have worked for that, I do a daily grind.
It is expect for mythic thought. Anything under mythic doesn’t seem worth the grind, just accumulate it passively.
I honestly think at this point, that the higher percent buff is there to compensate for the time it takes to finish world objectives for the least represented faction.
Let’s be honest here, apart from invasion where in some shards there are tons of alliance indeed, in every day questing sometimes I feel alone in a sea of red names.
Especially in the WQs that do not require a group so you cannot find one to join and switch shard it may take you 10 minutes to kill one mob…
Personally I have switched WM off only when doing the hivemind mount chain and I would keep it on regardless the buff. But I have to admit it’s frustrating and annoying to say the least, not being able to enter Tol Dagor because of the constant horde raid camping fp and entrance…
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This has been debated to death and nothing will convince me it’s fair. Not when ti’s a buff that affects AP or XP. There is a limited amount of AP on the map. All of which can be completed by both sides. Granted it can be more of a pain on Alliance.
I have WM on my main but I turned it off on all my alts Horde and Alliance. I only care about the buff to my main, it’s the only one I farm AP on. I would go insane if I farmed on multiple characters.
I level in WM because it’s noticeably faster on Alliance. I levelled my Alliance Paladin much faster than any horde and I will need to level some more characters to see all the storylines through the zones.
I did have WM on to start with at max level on my Alliance to see what it was like. If it was my main I’d keep it on but for an alt I just dabble with it, it just wasn’t worth it.
Non WM is a much more pleasant experience. No one cares what faction you are on. You can kill the same quest mobs and share tags, unlike WM where we will kill someone for getting a sneaky first tag and then it counts for us. You don’t have to worry about landing at a flight path or coming in or out of a tortollan puzzle.
When I’m in WM I’m far more likely to kill passing person of the opposite faction, in non WM I’m more likely to help them. Whilst on my Alliance tonight I saw a levelling Horde struggling to kill one of the group quest rares. I just stopped and helped him kill it and went on my way. I blew him a kiss and he bowed to me.
It is the main reason for Alliance turning on Warmode. After all the 30% buff on ordinary quest has to be balanced against the time spent PvPing or dead in order to get the buff.
I do the kill 25 quest most weeks, even though I don’t need the gear off it, but other guildies do. And it is a bit of fun for an hour. However it also makes every horde player an essential quest completion target as opposed to ordinary PvP where you might just kill them to get them out of your way if tagging too many mobs.
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Its unfair. It is an absolute disparity, especially on RP realms, where Alliance dominates. Cheers Y’all, Horde are never getting that bonus despite the 70/30 split against them.
So Alliance is given a bonus incentive to keep War Mode on at certain times, for a quest incentive each week, but doesn’t have to the rest of the time.
Just a reminder of that time when people used to cry about equal treatment and called it “Horde Mode” Whereas now there is actual Bias being shown, that people know of, and yet Alliance fans are strangely…quiet about it? As if it wasn’t happening?
It is bizarre, So yeah, the Blizzard bias towards Alliance in Warmode on RP Realms
We already outnumber the Horde, by about three to one, now we also get a 30% bonus as well, and a Quest for freebie items. Gawds, Imagine the uproar if it was the other way around, or even equal numbers!
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I don’t know much about RP realms but if they are sharded separately in warmode to everyone else the perhaps it is time the developers looked at rectifying a discrepancy such as that.
Well, ever sinc ethey over buffed the Alliance Warmode, they have been drastically outnumbering the Horde, and ever since i’ve been keeping WM off because it’s just unplayable now, constantly few Hordies against 10+ Alliances, it’s just ridiculous. Their goal was to encourage Alliance to turn on WM, hell, they succeded in ruining it instead.
Its not bonus for the alliance, its bonus for faction with less players in warmode, and stop with the “horde behaves better in warmode” nonsense, same people play alliance and horde,you will encounter dickheads on both sides, also it was the horde crying that they had noone to fight in warmode as alliance could not be bothered because most of the time it was 1v10 in hordes favore (not saying it was always like that but mostly). Seriously horde gets better racials forcing top end players to roll horde, resulting in more and more players rolling horde, you got pretty much 10% bonus during uldir progress because warmode was mostly big “no no” for the alliance, you will be getting first warfront boosted rewards and yet you are crying about alliance bias, how delussional are you man.
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I am not disputing that, I’m just saying anything above 38 just has such minimal impact that it feels like overkill.
I’d get burned out farming that hard every day.
Facts - unlike Punyelf constantly claiming it’s unfair based on personal feelings:
- 30% buff: Nothing prevents horde getting the 30% buff. Just more horde Players need to turn off their warmode. Alas no, They don’t? Well, there we have our Hypocrisy.
Alliance turns it off because they get ganked which leads to - Time Factor: Time spent on WorldQuests getting 30% vs Time Spent surving in those spots. The imbalance of factions in shards in average causes the faction with less people (in average) in shards having to fight longer to complete their world quests.
Punyelf is a good example and I confirm I do the same: I just don’t want to do too many freakin’ worldquests. So I finish just those to get the World Quest bonus (a huge load of reputation and random rewards) and be done with it.
So lets say I do 5 Wquests within 30mins as Horde I get “only” 10% bonus but I’m done in 30mins. While as Alliance I get 30% bonus, but it might turn out that Horde ist constantly filling shards and thus making it harder to complete the quests and you have to do it 3 times over lets say in 1h 30mins.
Worth the 30% more ressources? I don’t think so, I’d rather have my (reputation) world quest bonus done asap.
and I have a story that happend often too:
I was struggling with an elite world quest mob, when a group of horde passed by and finished me off.
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Yes that’s what i am saying 
, the issue is that it makes the spikes where we aren’t outnumbered and yet still have the (outnumbered) buff, for me it would be fine if the horde received the buff during those spikes, to counter act the time they will spend being dead.
This makes no sense. So how can I, as a horde player, control what other players decide to do? Horde players don’t control if they get the buff or not. We can’t control it. Not to mention that in order to get the buff we would have to stop playing the way we like to play for a chance that maybe, just maybe, enough people would do the same to change the buff. That is not realistic, and it’s why we will never see that buff move in the horde’s direction.
Oh, and let’s not forget that this buff also means a significant reduction in time needed to level new characters on the Alliance side, so this buff doesn’t have an impact only at max level.
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I agree Korrina, but this was the issue just in reverse before you as horde had no issue getting your 10% exp buff, while as alliance it was near impossible to do anything without getting attack, and what we was told, were to just have more alliance to turn on warmode.
Thats why i still think the best solution is no buff at all.
I totally agree that having the buff connected to all realm types RP or not, is a silly thing when the sharding isn’t behaving the same way.
Both factions is equally bad in this regard, few horde found it unfair that the 10% was horde only / Hordemode, but some did.
Just like some alliance now find it unfair towards the horde (which you can read in this thread).