Ok so warmode buffs for alliance

When Alliance was crying about Warmode etc and how unfair it is, to get ganked bye 20 Horde Players. What was the Solution from our friendly Horde Players?

TURN WARMODE OFF :slight_smile:

I startet to kill all Horde Players, thanks to your friendly manners. Its fun to Camp your asses until you guys log off.

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The reason RP realms are treated differently is because RPers, specifically AD RPers, wanted it that way. They complained en masse and Blizzard changed it.

I am aware, which is why the buff should be treated special for them as well :slight_smile:

It probably is. I’m on AD, and I play the game. I do NOT believe the 70/30 thing for a New York minute, at least in War mode. Oh, and I play both sides, too.

Yeah, that’s the problem, in a nutshell, RP Realms have their own shard, which basically is to prevent the Problems they had with Cities ever since the Sharding was introduced. Don’t get me wrong, this is a -good- thing for RP Realms, not because we don’t like other folks, but because it is really awkward RPing a conversation with someone, who suddenly vanishes due to someone logging on to a random other realm in the same zone :smiley:
So basically when you enable Warmode, you are only linked in with the other RPPvE and RPPvP realms. Now as opposed to the other realms, on those ones, the Alliance vastly have the numerical advantage.
Despite what Lanie thinks, the 70/30 faction balance is the actual figure (OK, its probably now High 60’s early thirties, but that is the breakdown of balance, the only RP Realm that didn’t have an Alliance majority was Defias Brotherhood, and that was pretty much 50/50)

Because the XP Buff is assigned -regionally- not based on Shard, That means that the outnumbering faction in the ‘RP Shard’ is now getting extra items and a 30% bonus, whereas the outnumbered one, is just getting 10%.

That is obviously unfair. I’d rather keep the Sharding, but it would be nice if they looked at the buff and went “Hmm, Somethings not quite right here…”

I mean the representation in WM, not the overall population.

Like I said, I play both sides, and in my personal experience there’s no discernable difference between the factions. Sometimes you have a good day, sometimes a bad one.

Clearly there is still an underrepresentation of Alliance as they still have the buff.

Despite what Brigante thinks.

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No matter what changes are made, you will always get people crying foul with made up statistics and “facts”, proving they are getting screwed over, yet some how they are still dominating the other side?

If the Alliance players are so bad and can’t PvP , why are you spreading so much salt about buffs YOU claim have no effect on the result when your godlike PvP skills are put to use?

Now could it be that now you’re having more people to fight against, you are now suddenly aware that you’re not actually as good as you try and make yourself sound and in a desperate bid to save some face, you’ve come onto the forums to vent?

I don’t PvP in any shape or form, so makes no difference to me what Blizzard do. I do find it funny how in the same post you are claiming that you’re both dominating regardless of the buff, yet you’re not able to fight as there are balance issues because of it?

Didn’t realise I was on my alt with that post. Just want to make sure that I am not hidden behind an alt when I get called out for not being any good lol.

Other things are debatable, but this one just LOL.

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You know the buff is regional, not based on the Shard?

So its totally down to EU Realms, not down to the RP Warmode realms.

Hence the Incongruity.

In my opinion the majority of horde players with warmode on had it on for the buff and not for PvP. Likewise Alliance are now turning it on for the quest and to a far lesser extent the buff.

I really think the reality is that there is only a tiny population there who actually want world PvP tags on for more than just an extra buff/quest. Removing the buff would leave warmode to stand on its own two legs, but then the developers would be taking a hammering on metrics.

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  1. The unlisted buff used to be fair and was equal on both sides. If the Horde turn off WM we are wont get any enlisted buff. That isn’t fair nor a fix.

  2. If there is a theoretical 500 AP on the map, both sides will complete those before they are reset. Despite it taking an Alliance slightly longer there is still only the same amount of AP on that map. In WM the Horde gets 550 AP for their trouble, the Alliance gets 650 AP.

I was against the WM Enlisted buff from the start. A huge number of players go WM purely for the extra AP/Resources. I can see the sense in the XP buff when levelling as compensation for lost time being ganked (my own experience is I rarely get killed while out in the open world while levelling). At max level you can still complete the same tasks, all be it at a slower rate but get bigger rewards for doing the same thing in WM, and then again even more rewards purely for being WM on the Alliance.

I understand why there is the buff but I don’t actually think the buff is working to entice players into WM, I honestly think the quest has a far bigger impact.

I think I wasn’t clear with my point. In WM people are more aggressive or looking for kills, everyone is an enemy. The more you get killed in WM, the more you want to kill everyone else because they are all just going to screw you over sooner or later.

In that quoted bit I was talking about non WM and I am more inclined to help others when you see them in trouble (regardless of faction) because you don’t see everyone as a kill target. I helped as I was passing because I saw the person as just another player trying to level. Not some scumbag that is going to gang up with others and come and try to kill me.

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Or the buff can be conquest/honor related so it’s actually just pure PvP rewards.

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While I do like that idea I still think it, would end up with faction x group farming faction y.

I guess we just don’t really know. I do know the only reason I have WM on, on my main is to get the extra AP. There must be others like me. But I can’t speak for others xD

I think there is a lot :smiley:

Personally I think if they had a quest for both sides each week and no buffs it would entice proper world PvP and be a fun experience for most.

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On the funny side yesterday Guild last Uldir Run I joined them and everyone, i mean everyone in the raid had the blu ball meaning they were all WM off… lol.

Am I the only one who finish assaults in 38 minutes and 14 minutes by using Horde? The only struggle I had with Horde was Tuesday night in Drustvar where Alliance were camping a war chest. This morning my belf was pretty much alone all the time… Log alliance and Oh My God, run away little girl, run away… i got ganked by my fellow mates from Draenor :rofl::rofl:

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Wish the buff Actually WORKED like how Lore and Ion told us it should a 15-20-25-30% buff Not just a flat 30%.
I also wish all the buffs was not there as it makes having warmode needed, something i complained about well before it launched.

Oh and i Freaking HATE how people camp the tortolan quests Not becuase of the camping but because the Freaking world quests BUG out and is not possible to finnish.

Crazy.

This sounds very similar to what the Horde was doing to me at the March on the Marsh quest (by the way, the worst quest I’ve ever taken part of in this game.) but with groups of five which formed more than a full raid.

I’d feel sorry for you, but I’m Alliance.

I will dance on your dead blood elf body.