One Evil vs. the Other

or just stop ERPing

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We both want it to stop, it ain’t going to stop.
Now stop having a thinner skin then a fallout new vegas’s marked men.

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Did they change the naming policy on RP realms? If ‘nick names’ are allowed, that really opens up a range of new characters for me.

I’m 5% sure that policy has never been enforced to begin to begin to begin to begin to begin with

I generally don’t care about people doing it privately, out of sight out of mind, but now you are just complaining that something that happened publically is public knowledge, which is comparable to complaining about water being wet
is it desireable? I don’t know, would it be better then the absolute lack thereof meaning no one ever gets in trouble for ERP-ing publically? Probably not

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dabs on you with my nickname

Easily solvable problem I reckon. If this so called “predator” lurks and seeks people out, typing inappropriate chatter over whispers or w/e, on can and should always take screenshots and report the said “predator”.

I’m certain there are methods for that, besides we also have an /ignore option for a reason to avoid such disturbances. Now bear in mind I’m not defending anyone here, just placing down suggestions on how to avoid those stalking creepers of doom.

I just fail to understand how anyone can fall victim to forceful erp, it’s just a load of bull beep. Either they do it willingly or not. You can block all possible attempts from the very beginning, simply ignore the person. But in most cases people would rather play the victim card, as proven countless times.

“Oh no I was bullied over a game and forced to do inappropriate stuff that I somehow figured I enjoy.”

I’m maybe taking all of this on a personal level, but any form of pedophilia and stalking literally disgusts me on so many levels. It’s classified as a mental issue at best.

Same way someone can be bullied into the real equivalent?

I usually don’t put my opinion on these things down, but I’ll add onto it. Do read through before you jump on any conclusions, because I’ll start in a controversial manner.

Sexual content is actually the lesser evil in comparison to brutality/gore or gambling on the PG scale (-- https://pegi.info/what-do-the-labels-mean --). PG12 allows for sexual implications, but strictly forbids anything else (so yeah, direct intercourse/ERP is against the rules—and illegal). PG16 outright allows sexual content, but gore is still restricted. PG18 is the only one which actually allows open killing on an immoral/brutal level (killing of, say hmmm, prisoners)—that’s actually illegal.

How much of that kind of RP have you complained about, compared to ERP? That’s not an argument, mind—we shouldn’t pick only one of the two evils to complain about.

Am I calling ERP ‘evil’? I personally don’t care what anyone does privately (on a legally, if not morally, acceptable level), and I think they should definitely not be bullied/harassed over it—self-righteousness & playing internet jury is also bad. However I also think that a particular caste of ERPers has managed to ruin certain communities, and someone who’d deny that is either one of those people, doesn’t actually engage in activities with more people from AD other than their friend group, or is purposefully ignorant of it.

It’s been mentioned before, but people who only bait others with RP in order to reach their perverted shenanigans are the particular caste I’m talking about, and I certainly have friends who have been affected by it. So ultimately, I do think that we should frown upon it in public mentions, but the ‘witch hunt’ mentality is by far more intolerable and should be directly pushed away; I’d rather see AD be overwhelmed with ERPers than supposed justice-seekers stalking FB pages and doxxing—because in comparison to ERP, the legal and moral implications in such an act are by far worse.

It’s always been ‘leave ERPs alone’ vs ‘ERP is the devil’, but I don’t think any of that matters. What the first crowd really wants is the removal of witch hunts/stalking & harassment, and what the second crowd wants is the removal of public depravity.

I want both. Don’t you?

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Look, essentially if you are transmitting sexually explicit content, pictorial or text based, to a minor ( even if they say they are an adult) then you are a nonce, and could go to jail over it. The Law is pretty explicit in this matter. It was even updated recently in the UK to cover cybering, I dare say many other European countries are the same.

So it doesn’t matter whether Blizzard polices it, if you are broadcasting it in public, where minors could read it, or even worse, transmitting it to someone directly who could be under the age of consent then you are a Nonce.

It is literally that simple.

I’ll disagree on the first statement of yours. You cannot compare cyber bullying with one in real life. What possibly prevents you, or anyone else, to block all form of communication with the said person that attempts to cyber bully you? From my perspective it’s ridiculous, but it could just be how I was raised. Even if it’s a major group of people.

I understand that this is the 21st century and that there are loads of sensitive folks out there, but there are plenty of options to prevent cyber bullying and to me it seems just as another excuse to play the victim card once more. Call me old fashioned and stereotypical but that’s just my opinion on the subject.

In truth, Warcraft universe introduced us to all the violence and well… war itself from the very beginning of the game. That’s likely why no-one ever complained on that aspect. Even then, I personally respected the boundaries it can bring and never went full brutal in terms of my “killing” roleplay, or torture. And I’m also certain just like anything else, the end goal is for everyone to enjoy this game whilst roleplaying, so respect, equality and fairness should go a long way.

Besides, RP-PVP campaigns are known to provide extra roleplay to everyone and be joyful (in most cases).

Everything else you’ve written is totally okay with me, upon which I’d agree with you.

I also mentioned somewhere above that if people are already investing their time with the ERP shenanigans they should do it in a phased/secluded area for ours and their own sake. Because last thing I want is to stumble upon two (or more?) people sitting butt naked and typing weird bull beep over emotes.

Also people who only invest their time on World of Warcraft to seek ERP, harass and stalk other people for sexual content should find a different platform or website for that kind of nonsense, I’m more than positive there are a good few numbers of it.

And lastly I think the whole “witch-hunting” thing became a trend is because those said ERPs are lazy to simply phase themselves out of reach from people who may possibly walk in on their nonsense. People are fed up with public ERP, exhausted and don’t want to see any of it any longer.

I’m on the same opinion as you; I can’t honestly see how someone can genuinely be pushed into it. What I know, however, is that it’s possible. There’s nothing unrelated in the comparison of pressure: pressure is pressure, and whether those words come from someone in front of you, or someone on the end of a mic, it doesn’t matter.

You could just walk away from vile individuals IRL and report their crimes to the police. Fear and paranoia are rather powerful emotions which certain individuals in society know how to manipulate however, and I think that instead of saying ‘grow a pair’ we should simply focus on removing the aforementioned—regardless of whether they have successfully pushed someone over the edge or not. Ignore the victim if you can’t understand them—I do. Don’t dismiss the crime, however.

I was making a reference to RPPvP campaigns with my ‘prisoner killing’, yeah. And that’s exactly the point. If we are to discuss legal repercussions we must accept the facts. I’ve had great fun in the campaigns over the server and would have them no other way, because in the end of the day what has really been displayed is nothing else other than what Blizzard themselves display. I’m no law student, so I couldn’t explain the nuisances of that implication.

smh can’t believe AD nibbas out there actually getting sexually assaulted in video games :sob::sob::sob:

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I suppose so. Guess there are differences in each human being, some are psychologically stronger than the other and can endure aggressive texts over the interwebs, some cannot.

That’s primarily how the whole issue erupted. Blizzard never revealed sexual content to us in-game to an extreme degree. Yes, there were some acknowledgements there and there that someone’s pregnant, etc-etc. I stand to be corrected at any time.

However war and combat’s been there from the very beginning, it’s what’s holding this game together in a way. And, whilst possible, it’d be very unlikely that someone would complain about aggressiveness or warmongering both IC and OOC.

Edit: Hey was no rocket science but I figured how to quote stuff, dammit forums.

It’s an odd way to put it, but ultimately yeah—you’re right. Some are wussies, other He-Man.

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Ours is a cycle of ERP. We have paid the price for sharing this world, and we have forgotten what makes us strong.

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Who said we were sharing?

keep your dingaling to yourself

Why do games in which you can /ignore people have to be safe spaces, again?
I’d rather have bullies going about than people damaging children but hey, to each their own priorities.

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Ok, no need to be rude.

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Gee, what was this about WoW needing to be a safe space, Aristion?

Really gets that noggin joggin.

Also:

REALLY makes ya think.

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