I don’t have anything to lose.
I have everything to gain, though. Be it spicy memes, good banter and even as a grand prize getting these people off our communities, that’s great.
Yeah thieving happens regardless of how much you increase the police force so maybe we should just stop caring about it or legalize it lmao am I right??
This sounds like a win to me, by the way. When the problem = fanatic/public ERP, the solution is the ERPers getting more discreet. This is good. We agree, the method works.
The big reddit meme of ERP being “okay” if it’s private is some huge canard that doesn’t hold any actual water when u get down to brass tacks, honestly. If you see it or not, the drama & culture of cyb0r will still have ramifications for the community as a whole. One of my eternal anecdotes is when I’d roleplay on NWN servers, with some banning ERP, some allowing it; the former would have actual roleplay, the latter was all just pre-amble to sex.
I personally rmbr when a promising Huojin guild collapsed thanks to erotic roleplay (jackin’ it) drama, and the early pand community becoming quite corrupt with lesbian pandaren with fart fetishes.
It’s 100% OK for people to make these big shame threads - players have a right to know if other gamers do the big ERP, tbqh, so they can stay away from it; especially if they’re under 18.
Ahhh, the Perroy assault comes, let me reply:
"Is your argument that you would prefer that cyber happens in public rather than “underground”, or am I misreading your post"
You’re misreading it, people who emote in public certainly didnt help themselves.
"So says the shadow of Xavius"
The Circle is nearly complete.
"People trip over themselves trying to tell me funny gossip"
That would be amusing if you were actually funny to begin with. Though I confess, watching you go from speaking dignified english to full on chav in a discord was hilarious.
"Just because a social ill can’t be 100% extinguished doesn’t mean that making progress towards that impossible goal isn’t a positive thing
People will always steal in real life, but that doesn’t mean stealing should be legal"
And its also why extremists and individuals rallying for blood get arrested under the act of terrorism, are you saying we should be terrorists?
"As opposed to no victory"
A brief victory is no victory, a poor comparison to be honest.
"As opposed to allowing their behaviour to be normalised / letting them keep at it proudly on their character of choice"
So basically you’re admitting your tactic doesnt work? Since they’d be moving onto other characters and doing the same.
"Yet by your own example the truth always comes out in the end"
AD/D called, I already have evidence you’re guilty of the same, what comes around…
"I don’t know about that - I recall in MoP/Cata people grew pretty pro-Cyber and would see no problem at all with it as long as it wasn’t in the middle of an RP hub. Now people who defend this stuff are - for example - reduced to posting on off-realm alts and I don’t think you could name a single guild that is traditionally considered ‘good’ on AD that doesn’t have at least some sort of policy against ERP"
I recall you tried to get ERP banned and were publically shunned by a vast number of people at the time, got a good laugh out of you though I admit, its funny to watch a nobody try to be people.
"I’ve had a senior GM message me out of the blue thanking me for my help instead ![:sunglasses:](https://d1bg94bbsh66ji.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/sunglasses.png?v=6" ":sunglasses:")
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That must make you feel special, would you like a consolation prize?
"Well, sure - if your assumption is that the strawman hypocrite you’re arguing with secretly loves ERP - and sure, I guess that is true for some people but I don’t get the mentality - why would you rail against something you secretly support?"
I never denied I disliked or liked it, so theres no point trying to pin something on me that is irrelevent, your attempt to assasinate my character does not give you anything here.
You watch those ERP scandals on the forums?
You see the one about communities? You got this community. They’re the kings of the server, huge discords out to here. They’re laying under a tree, in the middle of Valley of Honor. They’re so big, it’s so hot. They don’t want to move. Now the max lustful TRP players start to come, they start messing with them. Staining their RP areas, ruining their immersion. They don’t do anything. The ERP / Unorthodox RP shills start messing with them. Coming over, making trouble. Still nothing. Now the other guilds, they notice this. They start to move in. The jackals; FOTM guilds, Ice trolls in Orgrimmar. They’re barking at them, laughing at them. They nip at their recruits, and leech off the events that’s in their domain.
They do this, then they get closer and closer, bolder and bolder.
Till one day, that community gets up and tears up everybody. Runs like the wind, reports and exposes every deviant and bad roleplayer in their path. Cause every once in a while, the community has to show the jackals, who they are.
Can you not read? He’s not trying to pin anything on you, he’s addressing your strawman.
Quite true. Yet it took a while for the truth to come out, and it ended up rearing it’s ulgy head in one of your guilds of all places. It just goes to show that the lynch mobbing echo chamber doesn’t really work out in the long run.
Whilst it was handled well, and the creeper was booted quicker than he could say quidditch, it goes to show that these people are very good at hiding.
The best thing to do is to just report these people so that their accounts can hopefully be perma banned in the end.
Regarding your opinion on influencial people being on the forums.
Its about as relevent as circlejerking in a discord, its not influencial at all, most of the people on this forum I can ask a regular rper and their first reply is “Who?”
They dont know you, they dont care about you, the influence you think you have is non existant, its only relevent here because you make the loudest voices here, whining the same old tired rhetoric that died very long ago.
In honesty, you will be forgotten a year from now, and people will be like “who was that guy again, oh yeah, that guy.”
So to be clear, you’re telling me that you think guild leaders can’t kick deviants out of their guilds?
https://i.imgur.com/1NaH3HO.png
@Ghorek-Argent-Dawn
You can consider it my act of public service
In honesty, you will be forgotten a year from now, and people will be like “who was that guy again, oh yeah, that guy.”
People have been saying variants of that for 10 years now. y’all ain’t slick
Please fix your formatting
OK, fair enough
IDK if this is an in-character reply or something
Well, in my post I call the gossip funny instead of myself (although I’ve been known to crack a joke or two)
I don’t think I’ve ever spoken dignified English, I am a proud member of the Working Class
Is being against public ERP extremism in your eyes? I’m not sure I can agree
No, a brief victory is a brief victory
I would rather people do this gross stuff away from the public’s eye if they can’t be suspended outright via in-game reports for breaking the Terms of Service
What are you saying I’m guilty of? I have never cybered in this video game (or any video game)
If I had I would admit it freely - there are plenty of people in my guilds / that I am friends with that I know to have ERPed in the past before joining. What is important to me is that they kick the habit and don’t fall victim to that kind of thing again. You may be surprised to hear that I think generally (with very prominent 
exceptions) there is room for redemption & it is more useful to encourage people to change their ways instead of just shunning them (which will push them in the opposite direction)
For sure, but it looks like things have changed pretty drastically since then. It was a funny thread for me also and launched the Rotgarde from humble guild with middling activity to a contender for the most active guild on the Horde faction. That’s just showbiz, baby
It was a really nice message and I’m happy I received it. There’s no need to reply in a really sarcastic way just because your previous post isn’t necessarily grounded in reality
Uh… I’m not trying to pin anything at all on you in that post. I am saying that I don’t understand why some people rail against ERP while actually partaking in it. These people are a minority but even so it just seems very self-sabotaging
It wasn’t directed at you at all. You are posting on an alt so unless I can be bothered to look at your pets (I can’t) I don’t know the first thing about you
I’m okay with: Reporting of innappropriate RP profiles.
Seriously, use the report button, it’s there for you.
I’m not okay with: Naming and shaming.
No matter how good service you try to convey, it is STILL against ToS.
Joining EDL to get rid of ERP
Regular roleplayers don’t really matter, do they? Dime a dozen. It’s the influencers who matter, who change and do things. That’s why we got politicians.
I’m sure nobody knows you either IRL but they probably know the guy who wants to get something done in the country. + People’s ignorance is basically irrelevant argument because they don’t matter one way or the other how the community shapes up - They just follow, because that’s the path of least resistance.
I don’t care if people know me (though they do anyway), but that doesn’t really matter. What matters to me is the context of somebody’s post, how they argue their view, and how does that affect me.
I wouldn’t care if it was somebody I know or somebody I never knew about, if they have a solid and a good idea and can argue and defend their point, I’ll be impressed, I’ll probably change.
Whereas you, sadly, fall into the category that thinks fame and being known alone should matter- Which kind of tells about your nihilistic, defeatist attitude.
Sure, winning a battle doesn’t mean you’ll win the war. But I’ll rather win over and over again than never win or lose. But I guess people who have no faith in themselves can’t experience that.
Willing to bet gold on that 1 btw. I’m pretty sure my name will be remembered, in both bad and good contexts, by quite some people, long after I’ve eventually gone.
Yes, because there isn’t really a way to scan people’s out of character identities before recruiting them (and that is probably a very good thing for most part)
Sure it does. I can more than afford to kick someone who has gone against one of the core messages of my community (since I am really not struggling for members and have many fantastic roleplayers to hang out with). I have kicked many ERPers before - keeping an eye on your own circle is one of the most important aspects of community policing
Of course, but what can you realistically do? There is no method of verification - you tried your hand at running a guild so I’m sure you can respect that when you’re recruiting, you only have the information you are given by the player in question
Agreed 100% - you may be surprised to know that I report cyberers much more than I post about them. I am kind of a jobsworth
[CCTV][FOUND FOOTAGE][LIVE][LEAK][SPOILER][GONE WRONG]
Public ERPers attempting to flee from the Johnny 5-0 after their crimes to the realm have been exposed
People calling themselves and others “RP Influencers” here is pretty darn funny. RP in the end is a doll house. A theater. No one has any real power unless they are in closed circles that people have formed. This Forum post done by Neeroz was to state a opinion on what transpired yesterday, but it too has spiralled into endless name calling and shaming. That is my two cents along with the fact that people should keep their private stuff private to avoid this sort of “Scandals” from happening and creating a cesspit for people to jump into and dig even further. Many people here have already pointed at better choices of reporting people rather than Naming and Shaming. That’s all.
god that was a mess, i tried restarting it too but do you know how incompetent i was/am when it comes to leading guilds?
The guy in that image did Greek / Roman pederasty for his dissertation in his classics degree; where’s the actual ERP or ban-worthy stuff in that image? You do realise you’re naming & shaming a random dude who isn’t involved in this thread, right?
lol