…I have lost 4. I think the alliance did not need the prepatch to win AV…!
Yeh, It is very nice gaming!
Great not to spend all these games stuck behind a choke or a hill.
We were told to “Git Gud, kek” and now we did.
Nice to have a proper coordination, You should try it.
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Cant wait for the Horde cave to move down
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Let me guess, together with the other 39 Zugs you tried to defend and turtle instead of moving north. Had it coming with that move. So many weeks and Horde still hasn’t learned to play objectives instead of hard turtling IBGY.
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Hello there. so what are we talking about?
Well it’s obvious why Alliance are winning more now…
Quite simply they ain’t being cucked by the TERRIBLE PvP ranking system in place in Classic. Most have finished ranking and pre patch will hand out R14 weapons like candy and rep rewards are obsolete at this point so that means that Hordes ONLY tactic of being a bunch of salty soy boys and defending IBGY for hours on end isn’t as effective because Alliance will now just laugh at your feeble turtle tactics and play for however long it takes to get the win whereas before you KNEW that Alliance would stop playing if you dragged the game out long enough due to gimping their H/PH.
Even with your advantage of the starting cave being closer to the middle it doesn’t matter if you only defend, the win condition of that Strat is for the opposite team to quit playing but it ain’t going to happen anymore so perhaps you should use this last few months of Classic to make use of the terrain advantage in AV and actually attack.
Because you know when TBC hits and the cave gets moved WAAAAAAAY down south that it’s going to be even harder for you to get a win.
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Yea well alliance lost av games for hph reasons. Now hph doesnt matter so, i guess its different story now?
This is funny. To some ally players this must mean they changed the map 
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No, Horde players are just being complacent. You need less time to get across the field, but you all do not capitalize on this advantage.
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Horde would rather turtle and lose or win a 50 minute game and go back into a 1 hour queue than just go for good honor and rep games that are over in 10 mins win or lose and have 20 min queue and then they will complain about the queue length
haha
They are doing the same as always, it’s just not working anymore. Getting across the field in the start isn’t a big advantage if you can’t cap anything (or kill every single alliance player as it used to be). Also, if both rush for boss alliance will typically win. This is why Horde defends, but they also need an attacking group if they can’t wipe IBGY clean, and it’s usually not organized enough.
The horde queue IS 20 min now 
Horde as always won more in % of all battlegrounds because there’s to many Alliance player that are just PvE players and don’t care about PvP. It apply for Horde to, but way less.
This is why you saw Alliance premade in P2-P6 in Alterac Valley. Because this is the only way for them to win. But who care about AV man ? Just AFK in cave like everyone else. If you want to do real PvP, go WSG/Arathi and soon Eyes 
. AV is just a sh*tshow since day one anyway.
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Whenever I played AB/WSG, alliance tended to win this one.
Horde tended to win AV.
It was all about the best HPH rather than actually PvPing.
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WSG and AB is the most symmetrical BG for both factions and tend to be on favour of alliance with a more minor % winrate in classic.
Now its hordes turn to git gud. End of story.
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Except it was never about getting good. The honour per hour meta made the alliance afk at the hill of shame and now the meta changed so they actually fight back. At least it’s more interesting to fight them now.
Maybe apart from the occasional cancerous Russian premades.
I fully agree, my comment wasnt serious.
Alliance always had the advantage in AV over Horde. That bubble pull nosense and just focusing drek down is ridiculous and should be nerfed. Not to mention Alliance are constantly cheating with discord premades to win in Alterac Valley. Truly the dirtiest and underhanded faction when it comes to PVP.
Aww have you lost some AVs for the first time in a year? Poor little thing. Alliance is obviously cheating by communicating with each other. How dare they in a MMO.