Yes that’s what I said, they are cheating by premading over discord, coordinating and communicating together against randoms.
Show me on the doll where the mean Alliance has hurt you. Oh wait, you are actually serious. Sorry cant hear you over the delicious whining of the rest of the Horde.
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Ok then you’re clearly a stupid person, have a nice day.
You should look up a definition of premading. It is not what you think it is and what is actually happening in the discord.
Horde has told Alliance for one year to git gud. Well here we are.
uh huh the Russians for example they never premade right, must be unlucky that we lose every fight? must just be better than us… that’s it they’re just better than us!
I report these guys everytime they premade, they should be banned for what they do, they’re disgusting, cheating, desperate creatures and everything that is wrong with Classic PVP.
You are aware of the fact that it is not possible to queue with more then 5 people in the group for AV? Premades, as in pre made battleground groups, are not possible in AV.
Doesn’t matter, and people still que into the same games, just earlier today 15 people from the same realm were in the same AV, working together, disrupting caps etc… but I consider a premade the majority of the people on these discord servers cheating to get an advantage.
You are just wasting the time of a CS guy with your reports. Nothing illegal happening. Maybe adapt tactics and learn to play AV like the Alliance did. You don’t even need Discord for that, as Blizzard has an ingame Voicechat for your disposal.
You should’nt be surprised that russians are all from one server. They only have 5 servers and only two of them with a big population.
Adding to that: If Horde would just learn to rush they would win every single game until prepatch due to the spawn locations and the hilariously bad marshalls. They just love their turtles and get rightfully cave farmed for these antics.
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Nope. Alliance typically win when both sides rushed. It happened already at the launch of AV.
You cannot out-rush a bubble pull.
Well im happy for one sake that I dont have to queue 1 hr for a BG. Cant imagine how it must feel to queue that time and lose in AV. I played Horde back in the days (yes we were the weaker faction then as less people wanted to play “horrible looking races” but those of us who played through Warcraft 3 campaigns choose horde as we knew Thrall and Cairne from the story) and faction balance were much better. I remember queuing at max 5 min as Horde when x-realms was introduced 2006. Today every pvp player and their mother choose Horde for racials. Think it will be even worse in TBC despite Draeneis getting SoB. I would roll Horde only for PvE in Classic.
Yes you can. I’ve been out-rushed multiple times last week by Horde in 5m games. Horde does not need a Pally pull. There are other options that i won’t tell you. Alliance is btw not interested in 5m rushing games. We prefer max honor over Drek or kek.
It is simple math, you spawn closer to Vanndar, then we do to Drek. If you lose a rush you did something wrong.
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Indeed in fact it’s not a bad strat for Horde to use currently as most Alliance expect the turtle I had a few games last night when Horde defended the initial push on IBGY while taking SFGY then rushed Van as soon as they got SFGY meanwhile Alliance was sat at IBGY waiting for it to cap and for towers expecting Horde to defend in numbers or turtle at relief hut then the game ended after 10 minutes.
Well we had Russians bragging on forums about how good they are at griefing horde cave for hours. Sure, not all games whenever you face Russians are actually against Russian premades, but the vast majority is. I mean there’s nothing to be added, they did admit on several occasions that they do premade and use discord comm. to gain an unfair advantage. So far Blizzard has done nothing about it, which to me is baffling.
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Blizzard has done pleanty of changes to the AV queue to limit the number of premades because people were complaining so much. They added an aritificial minimum queue of about 4 minutes to it and hid BG numbers. It’s just that when there’s very few players queuing it’s still almost inevitable for a good chunk of people to end up in the same game if they queue at the same time. The fact that Russians can only get into games with other Russians makes this much easier for them but people also do it on EU servers.
Alliance in this thread unironically denies the fact of premaiding. Even with Blizzard fix against it you still can go to discord, find a room with your BG number and listen to the orders.
It is artificial win, you cannot hide behind “you are just salty”, “let us win sometimes” arguments, just because they aren’t real arguments 
It is hillarious to watch how you just run to the pack when left alone with no resistance. I saw hunters running to towers and rogues running to our base without noticing other players hitting them like if they were units in RTS that follow the player’s mouse click.
Please tell me, are you getting mass reported if you don’t follow orders? Is that how it’s done?
And even with that advantage you still lose to Horde base turtle when we are in time before your paladin strat that completely devalues Towers and Bunkers
Keep the salt coming. It’s just semantics, but communicating via voice after joining with 20 random others in a BG Channel is still not premading.
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Except it’s not a pre made.
Joining a battle and then giving people a link to discord to make communicating easier isn’t a pre made. A pre made as the name implies is a group made BEFORE you queue for the game.
There’s a voice chat built into the game you can use or you can do the same, it’s not Alliance players fault that you don’t do the same.
Just to point out I play solo and my WR for WSG is 59% (1321 games played) and AB is 76% (900 games played) even when you have the best PvP racials in the game only AV that it’s low DUE TO HORDE MAP ADVANTAGE and a terrible PvP ranking system that promotes fast games so don’t talk to me about advantages as when TBC comes you’ll not have a single BG you will dominate.
We could get into a discussion about towers and bunkers too such as how Alliance bunkers are useless and out of the way of the main fighting areas but that’s been covered to death. I’ll just wait till TBC when Horde players come here crying when the cave gets moved further south and they suddenly have to wait 1 hour to get rolled over.
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Yeah prospector pull but it doesn’t always work (and someone clueless almost always kills it anyway lol). Also, are you really sure horde is closer to Vann? Just having the cave further north isn’t proof of that since they closed the backdoors and horde actually has to go around crossing the bridge… At AV launch alliance used to win most rush games anyway so there’s more to it than just getting there fast.