Someone’s salty.
Horde players just can’t admit the BG layout favours them dramatically. You have a cave near the middle of the BG. You can reach Alliance bunkers faster than Alliance can. You can choke Alliance at various chokeholds while the Horde territory is an all open field for them to walk past if they ever get choked.
Horde in AV is a joke, and it must be sad to lose a BG you waited 20 mins for. Some Horde players think that justifies them winning the BG automatically.
lol, some Alliance players just can’t admit that the BG layout actually has a very minor impact on the outcome and that the stronger team is the one that will normally win (if they want to), which should be completely obvious to everyone now more than ever.
Imagine still not seeing it when Horde can reach an Alliance bunker faster than Alliance can and still holding onto your own argument that the layout of the BG is just a minor impact.
I’m going to repeat that. An Alliance controlled bunker is actually reached faster by Horde than by the Alliance.
I never denied the fact that the horde starts out at a further forward position. It’s just not as important as alliance players made it out to be here on the forums when horde had a massively higher win rate (literally like 99%). Now the win rate changed completely and the map didn’t change so in conclusion the map has only a minor impact and other factors are way more important. Saying otherwise is just ignorant at this point (well it was ignorant to begin with tbh…).
You forget the simple fact that more high rank Alliance with better gear plays, now that there is a high win percentage and excellent h/hour again. Obviously you can compensate the massive disadvantage through better geared players and more epic mounts on average. Doesn’t change the fact that it is still a huge advantage to spawn directly next to your first gy with a higher respawn rate then Alliance.
No, that simple fact is exactly my point.
EDIT: except the massive disadvantage part ofc.
Blizzard should remove the BG numbers… its such a dumb idea.
Sorry but if horde wouldnt have force turtled for the last 500 days then maybe alliance would have pity with them.
You dragged games up to 2hours because of that and you even denied honor for the alliance by not letting tiny troops kill lt’s and so on.
Learn to rush (like most russian horde teams do) and maybe max out honor instead of wasting everyones time. Premade or not, I lost to hundreds of premades as random in arathi/warsong and somehow people found this “ok” but when it comes to AV horde cries. Deserved in my opinion.
There are some things you don’t seem to understand. The horde was crying about premades because only alliance was realistically able to do it in AV due to their short queue time and every game was a 6-7 min loss. Maybe if the alliance didn’t abuse the queue system for their honor farm then the horde wouldn’t have started to turtle 
Also, LT and tower kills were denied because it gives honor when u win. With 1h queue you want to squeeze every drop out of it and rushing is then just not as worth it.
This is my theme for this final week of R14 PvP:
Deny the Horde!
All while talking to friends on Discord, grouped up in packs of 5.
Again: You should try it, albeit a little late.
Ok, great, glhf!
Horde wins most games due to strategic advantage, though it’s lost against a rush team who can pull the boss quickly because alliance can pala pull. A lot of players in AV are inexperienced, below max level etc so it’s unreasonable to expect the finest strategy by any stretch of the imagination, which is why Horde mostly wins because defending IBGY and the general triangle sends the alliance back to the north pole to respawn.
When Alliance does take the initiative to stay as a group and push south they usually win unless they are outgeared. Done a bit of AV on both sides, on the rare occasions I win on alliance I’ve been with discord group leaders, I wasn’t part of the premade group but when orders are given and followed it’s usually a steamroll win.
Not sure which expansion but in future Alliance has a similar advantage in AV, I remember in Cataclysm having a 19 Alliance win streak or something while levelling an alt.
Ya lost 4 out of 5 AV as Horde?
Wow, dis must be a bug, mon. Wtf.
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