beating the final raid boss is the endgame dude, your ilvl can climb higher, and people might drop some extra gear next time they kill it, but nobody really cares anymore, they kill it with different people for achiev, maybe mount chance… If your end-game boss is Zekvir you don’t need better gear.
I think the idea was delves should be relatively easy content. To make it scale up to mythic raiding difficulty wasn’t the design choice. So it also should not reward all the way up the highest.
It is also very difficult to scale since delves can be done in any group composition and amount of players (1-5).
I think not, the idea was to give solo players option to do some content and gear up with out joining guilds and pug groups.
It is really great idea, many people like it, it gives solo players something to thrive for, but it seems that this progress stops too early.
It’s just a matter of if statements 
You also don’t need better gear when you kill final mythic boss, should blizz stop rewarding you for second kill?
We are paying the same amount of money for this game, why are we limited then and you are not?
You probably buy tokens with gold, so that means you don’t even pay with money to play, and yet you are rewarded more than people that pay cash to play (those are the ones with less time).
That is really not fair don’t you think?
And in order to do …
10% or 15% nerf on health since 1st month on majority of the mythic bosses.
An 8x stacking buff that reach 20% dmg/healing .
An increase on Ilvl over-time=another nerf
And insane amount of nerf on every ability .
Just the buff in raid is close to 20+ ilvl boost and counting everything (Liquid last week had a under 30% 1st phase and the buff is at 7.5% only and many they still need some upgrades . Imagine the last boss cannot even hold 1st phase 
Yeah no, let people upgrade their gear as much as they want.
Furiz:
but you don’t get extra reward for the second kill, just the regular boss drop scaled by the content tier.
Zeline:
well from what I saw most guilds including mine can’t get past 4, so we do need constant upgrades to bypass mechanics and maybe kill it before another boss phase, because the raid cant be coordinated as required because at this point many guilds have some core raiders and the rest in group is what was online at the time and it’s very hard to get hands-on decent people willing to progress nowadays, Or at least it seems like it to me. But that is not Zekvirs or Delves problem, maybe not even a raid problem, just a terrible overcomplexed boss design.
Keento:
You can gear as much as you want, but for the content you do ofc, imagine I’d gear up in Devels for Mythic Raid because it’s easier to get upgraded like that than playing the content I’m gearing for. It’s just nuts to think of.
it’s not nuts.
It just shows how messed up the gearing is in this game.
I personally couldn’t care less whether someone runs around in full mythic gear or not, because it tells absolutely nothing on how that person plays and whether he knows what he is doing.
You can be given a full mythic set for all I care when you log in.
Show me your achievements, show me your logs, show me your mounts and what not.
Tells me a lot more about your playstyle than having something purple equipped.
but in order to have logs you need to play the content and kill it, in order to play the content you need to have a reward in mind I don’t understand. If gear reward is nothing for you to do the content, why would you struggle to pull the same boss 100 times before killing it as we do nowadays?
And there’s your problem/issue.
You apparently play for the shiny purple.
I play because I enjoy being online with friends and have fun together.
For me the fun is clearing that raid/dungeon/encounter. The purple pixels are just the cherry on top.
it’s hard to believe you would enjoy 100+ unsuccessful pulls when you haven’t done one yet. The shiny purple is what we do it for. To be better next time, or to have a better chance to kill the other in row.
That might apply to you, not to me, so don’t speak of “we”.
I am happy with the raiding, I am happy with the delves and the people I play with.
I don’t care about Mythic dungeons because it’s not fun for me to do.
As I said, I do things because they are fun to me.
Really not that complicated.
and those 100 unsuccessful pulls before kill which for you get nothing meaningful for your character sound how much fun for you exactly?
Stop trolling,
You have said your opinion, we think its not cool 
How am I supposed to even answer that?
I just tried to explain to you that I am doing content with friends because it is fun.
That includes failures, wipes and what not.
I thought this was…clear?
Visions will probably offer higher track rewards when they come back. Delves simply aren’t designed to be that content, the mechanical complexity isn’t there, the emphasis on execution isn’t there, and the promise of being role agnostic means making them sufficiently challenging but still doable for every class and spec with the few tuning options they gave themselves would be a nightmare.
it is clear, but I’m asking why mythic raiders should progress hours, and hours when a gear upgrade wouldn’t be a reward? The better gear makes you stronger so can move on to a harder one, or have better time next time. I think that is clear enough as well. If you don’t participate in such content, which you clearly don’t, you don’t need that gear for what you doing.
Someone getting that gear doesn’t change anything for you.
You can still do your mythic raid and get the gear that way.
Nothing changes on that whether someone else has that gear.
Under that logic you might as well quit raiding because the world first guilds are already done and geared.
Honestly why don’t we remove gear from the game? It’d reduce Dev time enormously, it’d make it way easier to balance, and it seems all gear does is make people sad they don’t have it.
Make the only rewards transmog and titles and such.
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I don’t have enough popcorn for this… 
I assume you support this?