it does change it because we earned that gear by killing previous bosses, so what you suggesting is to gear up upfront and then go raid together afterward, or not because we already have the gear so who cares if we kill it. Azeroth will be fine anyway.
I honestly couldnât say without digging deeper into that.
I would say it âdependsâ on how you wish to achieve this?
How would players perceive getting stronger?
What would consist as a challenge and how would you implement this?
We get it, you want gear because based on all your points, thatâs why youâre raiding.
No point in keeping to reiterate that.
Our playstyles are not compatible, best to leave it at that.
Why do people need to get stronger? People just get sad when they arenât as strong as someone else so Iâd remove the ability for that to happen.
Wouldnât change much of anything regarding challenge. Just tune lower content up but not as much as higher content.
yeah, they are not, thatâs why I have gear and you donât and you envy it and want it for free.
This ainât Overwatch, this is an RPG, and itâs meant to build your character stronger over time⌠you have a template gear for everyone in PVP, you can play that and get your gear there.
You doing mythics of running around in the best gear means absolutely nothing to me bud, donât kid yourself.
Till you started posting here you basically didnât even exist to me.
Nor does you clearing mythic encounters have any bearing whatsoever on my fun.
See the other posters it does matter to them. And personally I would like to avoid the GW2 system for example where every map is a constant challenge regardless of you being max level or âgearedâ.
We are supposed to be heroes and I do understand the people want to feel like that.
yet you still seem to want the same gear as me. For what do you need it I wonder? and why do you want it if it means nothing to you?
Donât really care. I want to reduce the amount of complaining and gear seems to be source of nearly all of it. âI donât have Xâ, âGive me Yâ, âWhy does he have Z?â, âMy A isnât as good as their Bâ, âWhy did I have to wait for my C?â, âMy class was good week 1 but got nerfed and didnât need to be because we donât scale with D and E.â
Just get rid of it. No more complaining.
I donât want your gear.
I donât want to rub mythic raids or mythic dungeons.
I want my gear to be upgraded and maxed out. Because my content forced me to run your content
Ainât that the truth
you are not forced. Itâs a character progression that is placed in the game, thatâs how we play it, we first level up, do our delves, heroic dungeons, m0 dungeons, normal level tier raid, m+ and hc tier progress, mythic progress, flex with gear and achievements, titles, whatever we achieved until another patch hits. Thatâs how wow character progression works. If you donât run mythic content, you do not need mythic gear.
Thatâs your take on it, and not shared with everyone.
Complaining about not having stuff other people do have is just part of being human though.
On De Other Side, if nobody wanted stuff to make people jealous no one would do anything.
In general of course.
The issue here is that he thinks high end gear should only come from mythic raids and we think otherwise.
For example, look at pvp players, they donât care about high end mythic gear, they have their high end pvp gear and they are completely fine with it.
PvP gear scales up to ilvl 639 in BGs, so thatâs high end gear in PvP.
Thatâs another loot table separate from Mythic loot table, or M+ loot table. Which also scale pretty high.
So everyone has a chance to get to that high end level of gear except solo players = Delve players.
Why donât we allow Delve players to gear in the same manner,
Iâm not asking for free gear but reward T9 and T10 with more Runed crests and Gilded crests for T11.
if you let delve gear scalled to 639 in open world/delve/solo content
than peoples will cry âmuh mythic raider cant kill elites in open worldâ
i like the idea of open world / delve / solo folower dungeon gear but i doubt they do this
PvP gear is templated because most PvP players ask for it. Because they cannot balance it otherwise, even with template gear, itâs still poorly balanced but way better and it opens the content for more players without a gear entrance barrier. And PvP is completely excluded from the vault.
you can get heroic track gear (626) in your vault for completing t8 delve and Iâd not have a problem if delves give some crests for higher tier difficulty.
But you guys are asking for maxed-out gear just for delves. You want mythic track gear for solo content, itâs just ridiculous.
You do not need such gear for that content. In raid you do, in PVP you do as well. For the hell what do you need/want 639 in a delve? If you want 639 gear in the world just get the PVP gear and turn on your war mode. Even I play in PVP gear outside of an instance content lol. Nothing feels better than baiting people with my low ilvl that will scale up to full mythic when PVP combat starts.
Gilded Crests are the highest reward in World of Warcraft. World of Warcraft is an MMO that will gently try to migrate you towards group content over time. If you reefuse, it eventually closes itself off.
It has always done this.
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and what do you need that gear for ? the gear that you currently have is enough for doing any solo content available in the game
well you should ask yourself that question .why people want to get promotion in their job or why they want to get rich in real life .you will have your answer in no time as to why people want to get stronger in mmorog
Go do 8+ keystone dungeons preferably 10 so you get mythic vault gear upgrades at 623 1/6 that you can max out to 639 item level.
Maybe start with 2 crafted items both 90 gilded crest each with embalishment on both