[PCU/Horde] Saurfang Legion 🤼‍♂

[Chayan-argent-dawn]

@Tyreis-argent-dawn

It’s actually you who are not replying to arguments.
Pandaman told you very quickly that he doesn’t care about your OOC gripes. Your only counter-argument was that sometimes OOC authority gets abused for IC purposes, so actually your OOC gripe does matter (for some reason you didn’t explain). After pandaman’s point that OOC authority doesn’t exist outside of communities/guilds you just fell silent on that argument and started babbling about how agreeing is good.

This is the case. No matter how many robes of strangely structured prose they throw over over that argument, it will remain “it’s nice when people are nice IC because it means they’re also nice OOC” which is such an out there take that I honestly think they’re just pulling on my nose

[Urugar-argent-dawn]

@Athramus-argent-dawn-257317

Hey orc above me

sips elixir of tongues

Hello human

[Kelduril-argent-dawn (Kelduril)]

@Redshanlu-argent-dawn

Sylvanas is not a nice person, the writing has overwhelmingly done her dirty as well but she is known to also do things with subtlety

Not really. She tends to get arrogant and overly emotional.

See:

• Confrontation with Garrosh

• Trying to assassinate Garrosh before his trial

• Teldrassil

• Her starting a rampage after Veressa refused to join her in UC

[Athramus-argent-dawn-257317]

@Chayan-argent-dawn

I think you are just saying words at this point

@Chayan-argent-dawn

The info you’re trying to provide via the google translate treatises isn’t particularly cool or useful

@Chayan-argent-dawn

What a busted / gnomish reply. Can’t wait for the next one in 45minutes

@Chayan-argent-dawn

You want me to post evidence that “catched” isn’t a word?

@Chayan-argent-dawn

Losing your cool out here king.

@Chayan-argent-dawn

I wish you would focus a little more because it really shows

“Totally not invested in me” finally discredited.

Onto the next point.

@Chayan-argent-dawn

What a truly nebulous thing to say

Or just hard for you to understand.

It’s the usual “‘many people do it bad so it has a stigma upon it”.

@Chayan-argent-dawn

There is absolutely no way to “control” anything beyond in some respects the behaviour of people who join a guild / community

I think you are just saying words at this point

I’ll write it in Morsteth language: corrupt officer RP is redpilled if you’re not doing it for the sake of a powergrab.

People control each other everytime. The topic of control/influence is very similar to the whole OOC/IC debate. People enact influence upon others in plenty of ways. Not just with explicit consent etc. Some forms of influence are cool, others are not.

@Chayan-argent-dawn

Yet you mention that it is your character’s IC opinion and even emoted how your character would reply to this thread

It was just a ironical reply my dude. Of course the point was my OOC concern. As is yours. I’m not the one pretending that OOC doesn’t matter.

@Tyreis-argent-dawn

Your only counter-argument was that sometimes OOC authority gets abused for IC purposes,

Read again and wait your turn please. You got a different reply. The whole framework thing was to explain why OOC matters. If I recall correctly, the authority bit was an explanation of why I brought up the question in the first place, because people were attacking me on that point too.

@Chayan-argent-dawn

Why do you keep refering to people by their character’s races in this quasi-IC way?

Why are you so obsessed about everything I do? You have to go out of your way to discredit literally anything? It’s just better than learning your name dude

@Chayan-argent-dawn

Your argument remains “things are nice when its nice lol”

It isn’t. It’s basically the watered down version for you to understand
But hey, if we have gone this far, now it seems like you agree with my point?

[Morsteth-argent-dawn (Morsteth)]

@Tyreis-argent-dawn

Your only counter-argument was that sometimes OOC authority gets abused for IC purposes

@Athramus-argent-dawn-257317

Read again and wait your turn please

@Athramus-argent-dawn-257317

corrupt officer RP is redpilled if you’re not doing it for the sake of a powergrab.

You are just responding to make a response at this point

Edit: [Waited his turn]

[Urugar-argent-dawn]

you’re arguing over something that isn’t even happening lmaoooo

[Chayan-argent-dawn]

@Athramus-argent-dawn-257317

“Totally not invested in me” finally discredited.

Onto the next point.

Saying more words / making no point

Damn, I waited 30 minutes for this

@Athramus-argent-dawn-257317

Or just hard for you to understand.

It’s the usual “‘many people do it bad so it has a stigma upon it”.

No, it’s just nebulous

“we should be nice IC I think that’s nice” is not a strong point

@Athramus-argent-dawn-257317

I’ll write it in Morsteth language: corrupt officer RP is redpilled if you’re not doing it for the sake of a powergrab.

People control each other everytime. The topic of control/influence is very similar to the whole OOC/IC debate. People enact influence upon others in plenty of ways. Not just with explicit consent etc. Some forms of influence are cool, others are not.

Do you think people can mind control you OOC into RPing with them or are you still struggling to read the OP / understanding the IC/OOC dichotomy

@Athramus-argent-dawn-257317

It was just a ironical reply my dude. Of course the point was my OOC concern. As is yours. I’m not the one pretending that OOC doesn’t matter.

Yeah but then you also began to say it was your IC concern (?)

@Athramus-argent-dawn-257317

Why are you so obsessed about everything I do? You have to go out of your way to discredit literally anything? It’s just better than learning your name dude

reply to a post that a guy took 30min writing → why are you SO obsessed

Come off it, gnomish

@Athramus-argent-dawn-257317

It isn’t. It’s basically the watered down version for you to understand

Yes, it is

@Athramus-argent-dawn-257317

But hey, if we have gone this far, now it seems like you agree with my point?

No

[Athramus-argent-dawn-257317]

Why? Because you think the points have been proven? If not, what doesn’t convince you?

[Chayan-argent-dawn]

@Athramus-argent-dawn-257317

Why? Because you think the points have been proven? If not, what doesn’t convince you?

You have made 0 points that exist outside of the Cathedral RPer dimension so far

[Morsteth-argent-dawn (Morsteth)]

[Urugar-argent-dawn]

damn athramus chillin in da cathedral square
he kinda vybin doe

[Athramus-argent-dawn-257317]

@Chayan-argent-dawn

Saying more words / making no point

We started the debate on two trivial things.

One was = you didn’t care at all and the other was that OOC and IC aren’t connected. Your debate was a joke to begin with and I told you from the start. If you realized it this far it doesn’t say anything “cool” about you my man

[Chayan-argent-dawn]

@Athramus-argent-dawn-257317

We started the debate on two trivial things.

Yeah and I won instantly (easily)

@Athramus-argent-dawn-257317

One was = you didn’t care at all and the other was that OOC and IC aren’t connected.

Your OOC opinion shouldn’t effect what your character thinks, yeah

Are you actually arguing pro-mixing OOC into roleplay to a greater extent? [cathedral bell tolls loudly]

@Athramus-argent-dawn-257317

Your debate was a joke to begin with and I told you from the start. If you realized it this far it doesn’t say anything “cool” about you my man

Winning this argument only took like 10% of my power

[Athramus-argent-dawn-257317]

@Chayan-argent-dawn

Yeah and I won instantly (easily)

Two hours later…

@Chayan-argent-dawn

reply to a post that a guy took 30min writing -> why are you SO obsessed

Again. I have never denied I am very invested in the arguments I make on the forums. I honestly think you didn’t understand them at all, hence why it took you two hours to realize that what we’re debating upon (a debate you initiated, I’m afraid) is quite stupid.

@Chayan-argent-dawn

Winning this argument only took like 10% of my power

I wonder if you’re even reading what it’s being written lol

@Chayan-argent-dawn

Your OOC opinion shouldn’t effect what your character thinks, yeah

Your original point was different. It was that OOC should have no impact on IC. You don’t even remember what you’re debating.

[Morsteth-argent-dawn (Morsteth)]

@Athramus-argent-dawn-257317

I have never denied I am very invested in the arguments I make on the forums.

@Athramus-argent-dawn-257317

I’m not very devoted after the first replies

@Athramus-argent-dawn-257317

You don’t even remember what you’re debating.

What’s going on with you my man what’s happening

[Athramus-argent-dawn-257317]

A bit out of context. It’s just the strawman thing all over. That’s uncool. You’re lucid enough to realize what is going on, or you need it explained to you?

[Tyreis-argent-dawn]

@Athramus-argent-dawn-257317

Again. I have never denied I am very invested in the arguments I make on the forums. I honestly think you didn’t understand them at all, hence why it took you two hours to realize that what we’re debating upon (a debate you initiated, I’m afraid) is quite stupid.

Is it brain worms that force you to take part in an argument you think is stupid for 2-3 hours while repeatedly stating how little you care about it?

[Segtillis-argent-dawn]

It’s the brain bugs man!!!

[Morsteth-argent-dawn (Morsteth)]

No, out of context would look like this

@Athramus-argent-dawn-257317

I am very invested

@Athramus-argent-dawn-257317

I’m not very devoted

[Chayan-argent-dawn]

@Athramus-argent-dawn-257317

Two hours later…

I hope we make it to four

@Athramus-argent-dawn-257317

Again. I have never denied I am very invested in the arguments I make on the forums. I honestly think you didn’t understand them at all, hence why it took you two hours to realize that what we’re debating upon (a debate you initiated, I’m afraid) is quite stupid.

I mean I enjoy arguing on the forums in the same way I’d enjoy eating a delicious Big Mac - it’s really nice but I’m not going to be invested in that sandwich afterwards and will forget about it once I’m done enjoying that world famous secret sauce (not be be confused with Pasta Sauce, which we in the PCU do not like)

In the same way I enjoyed reply to your arguments but don’t have any investment in you as a player

@Athramus-argent-dawn-257317

I wonder if you’re even reading what it’s being written lol

I think it is you who hasn’t read the writing on the wall

@Athramus-argent-dawn-257317

Your original point was different. It was that OOC should have no impact on IC. You don’t even remember what you’re debating.

Literally the same point written in the same way

The ideal form of roleplay for me is one where there is little to no crossover between IC / OOC

I’m surprised you find that contraversial but I think we are accustomed to very different types/levels of roleplay

@Athramus-argent-dawn-257317

A bit out of context. It’s just the strawman thing all over. That’s uncool. You’re lucid enough to realize what is going on, or you need it explained to you?

I think Morsteth is also easily outfoxing you here. You’re just posting words and acting offended and doing your best to derail while he is posting very witty and charismatic ripostes