People who don't enchant/gem their gear - why?

doubt - we literally had a guy in this thread claiming he is above enchanting his gear.

150 gold spent on AH to prevent random inquisition is a good price to have your thoughts not distracted then. My points stands.

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Since I am currently catch up in gear.

Pretty simple:
If its cheap I dont mind and buy it.

If its expensive I dont waste money on items that I replace soon.
Lots of enchantments are not strong enough to be worth wasting money on.

If I time a 18+ Dungeon or not wont be because I bought a lil extra stats.

Ofc this changes as soon as I get high ilvl items or go into even higher levels.

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I think it’s more about the message one sends. Even if small boons, these kind of details still convey you care. Which can indicate something about your more general mindset.

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Can you explain? What mindset actually?

That you come in as prepared as you can. I don’t mean when people don’t do this, they automatically express they don’t care, but for an observer it’s not so strange to draw conclusions based on it. It may indicate a rather laissez-faire attitude.

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Possible, my ilvl is around 460 now… so pretty bad.
I just dont see a point in wasting money when every item drop is basically an instant switch. <.<

Again, this only applies to high priced things.

Also I dont really mind how people see me. As I get my job done on 18+ rn. Will climb when Lord Blizzard finally decides do give me any loot. Having gear that would be worth to spend money on would actually be a great start for sure

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Those assumptions fall in my oppinion among the “assumption is the mother of all duckups.”. “as prepared as you can” is also subjective when the OP is asking for cheap enchants.

People are putting way too much value towards enchants. They are really not the make or break of your keyrun.

Of course. And I get that anyone who expects to replace their gear soon isn’t going to slap expensive enchants on it, and neither is the OP demanding that. It’s been ages since I’ve done any sort of raiding, but as heallead at the time I did notice people who care about these small things, also often care about the bigger things.

When people don’t put in that effort, there can be several reasons, some far more innocent than others. It’s not helpful to immediately jump to the worst conclusion, but yes, at times it betrays a more general mindset :wink:

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When it comes to generalisation i more think people who are caring about other peoples enchants in +18’s are probably bad players who somehow think they need those enchants for being able to do that content. And looking at this topic they are even going to whisper and bother other people with it. They overvalue those enchants so much i believe they hardly know anything about the content they are doing.

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THANK YOU - finally someone says that - it IS often just about showing you care and I appreciate it more than someone going with “Idc” mindest.

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Why?!

This is why, the cost isn’t the issue, the inconvenience is.

So you’re telling me — I have to go to the Auction House, buy enchants for gear I might not be wearing in 20-30 minutes.

If the success or failure of the dungeon/raid is attributed to whether I have enchanted gear or not, the group is the problem, not me.

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I used to have your attitude. Then I lost the big excitement for the game. I don’t enchant or gem anything now, but not doing group content. I would enchant and gem when I did heroic raids with my guild in recent years, but wasn’t necessarily doing it as the first thing I did after getting an upgrade, as in the past.

I think most people are so occupied with their own way of playig the game, that they aren’t able to see it or understand it from other perspectives. I was the same the first few years.

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Someone might aready have pointed it out, but if you are part of group content, at max a 30 man raid… that one enchant on everyone in every slot makes a huge difference in output from the team as a whole, so it’s not just about you as a solo player.

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And still 650G its so easy to get in dragonflight. So i dont see an excuse of its expensive, even 10 k gold is easy to get.

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I put enchants/gems based of the content in going to do or progress too, i mainly play Classic (it makes it easier)

On 200 green gem
213 green gems + cheap ench (like tbc ones)
226/232blue gem + cheap gem
245 blue gem + good ench
251/264 epic gem + good gem.

Now I ma playing a bit of retail too doing a bit of solo shuffle (my goal is to get to 1400, currently at 1321) and in putting ench on only conquest gear.

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bold of you to assume you can replace every single enchantable piece of gear in 20-30 minutes.

As mentioned above - in a 30 man group - everyone being or not being enchanted is a huge difference.
OK, checking bloodmallet - for frost mage - weapon enchantments can add anywhere from 0,9% to 1,9% of overall dps.
For the sake of argument, let’s assume that a weapon enchant, on average adds 1% of a person total dps.
in a 30 man group you have 2 tanks and like 22+ dps, depending on comp. If every of 22-23 dps do 1% damage more… It’s a significant difference, isn’t it?
Now I can’t tell you the math behind adding waking stats, leg enchant, ring enchants or gems but I can assume it will be significant as well. Then add 4% versa phials - used or not - and imagine how much overall damage can be done on top of that.
If you can’t comprehend this pretty simple math and you are like “oh it doesn’t matter”… Well, you didn’t excel at school, I guess. And with this logic - item level or correct stats don’t matter either. Nothing matters - “buy a boost mentality” I guess?

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I wish my leg enchants were that cheap!

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When everyone is adding 1% with an enchant the difference is 1% in throughput. Not sure how amazing significant that is. 1 enchant on 1 player is nihil when you measure that towards a group of 20-30. (And this example is about expensive enchants, not cheap ones)

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Cute, a newer player than me. I started in S2 BfA :smiley:

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yes I know it’s not 22% - but lets say everyone does 150k dps on average.
Now add 1 % - 1,5k dps
1,5k dps x 22 = 33k dps more
if a fight takes lets say 4 minutes that’s almost 8 million of “free” damage during that time.
Now again - add consumables, gear enchants etc.

And I don’t wanna recollect every time I wiped a boss with less than 5 million hp left - of course I know people “most people” HAD weapon enchants in those tries but I know most e.g. didn’t use pots or had phials which would probably suffice. Just simple stuff, man.

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