Then order a pizza and throw noodles on it.
Oh I do that often. Itâs usually Italian food, but I use chopsticks so it counts as Chinese⌠I guessâŚ? Maybe? No?
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Do they use a wok or a pan to fry it?
Im again, not condining physical acts like that, even if the person is a slimeball. So if that is the case its not good and only fuels more hatred. Its also assault of course.
However, its still understandable that people lash out against guys like him, considering what he stands for, what he normally says in public and what he has done himself. Its not okay, at all, its the complete oposite and a crime., but it is understandable why it happened. But it doesnt make it right, I again want to clarify that for the sake of it.
And it also still doesnt legitimiase the play/selling point that âAll muslim people are badâ because of it.
Iâd actually use it to sell the point that all journalists are dishonest scumbags to be honest.
Guy goes out to speak his poltical views.
Group whom disagree smash the place up.
Papers inply it was the guy and his followers whom were responsible.
Itâs similar with the greasy toad looking one, getting asked questions about the NHS and so on by the BBCâŚ
Heâs not running for a posistion in the UK, heâs running for the EU election, which has nothing to do with the NHS and so on.
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I do geniuenly believe that victim blaming is never okay, regardless of the situation. And well, this is the thing with guys like this. By attacking them physically, it enables them to be actual victims, it adds more fuel to the fire and gives more ammunition. And it can be used as another selling point for further supporting.
Attacking people of a diffrent political belief, particularly these guys, is technically helping them gain more support.
That isnt of course the only reason why Iâm against it, my main reason is that I believe people shouldnt be attacked, period. If someone has a diffrent political opinion you think is wrong, discussion is best. If you wish to try and persuade them that they are infact wrong, discussions again. State your claims, provide reasons why and be civil, even if you personally think that the opposite view is foul or even disgusting.
This goes for any side. Show atleast some cordial respect/calmness.
Too many âwhatâs wrongâ threadsâŚ
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Anything can be understandable from certain viewpoints, I feel like thatâs a point not even worth mentioning.
Eventually it begs the question.
âWho is wrong?â
If a guy says that X group of people are terrible, violent people.
And then members of group X prove that guy right⌠which group is wrong?
To bring it back to WoW
It would be Genn publically saying that the Horde âare vile and evil, they should not be allowed to continueââŚ
Meanwhile while people chastise Genn for saying that, the Forsaken blight a village and the Trolls are there roasting baby kebabs over the remains of a church.
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It was more to point out the claims by alot of articles supporting the guy saying âit came out of the blue, he did -nothing- wrong to provoke it at all, pure innocence.â
Ahhh âso he was asking for itâ.
I donât think that really holds up right?
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From a sane viewpoint, no.
As I said, anything can be a reason for violence from certain viewpoints, we shouldnât take heed of those viewpoints.
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To use a WoW anaology, its more in line with:
Genn saying night elves are litterally the spawn of Nâzoth, they all want to destroy the world, are evil, not sentient, must be extermined and boil their children. And rallying people to take action.
Then a couple of nelves who listened gets mad and wrecks his horse carriage.
In this case, kinda yes? This man in particular isnt just stating his believes, but advocating people, pushing even, to do actions towards those he happen to disslike.
Fallout from people who lack proper judgement should be expected, but it doesnt make it right. They are in the wrong completly for lashing out physically.
Edit: Say I make a lengthy forum post badmouth and insulting someone here, breaking the CoC. I should expect lashout in return, possibly even people whoâd do the same back to me. But theyâd still be in the wrong for breaking the CoC as well.
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I think it depends where you look for. The common european folk has become more nationalist, that is true. But is it these people which will forge the new values which societies will adhere to, tomorrow? Or they are just having a stomach reaction to something?
For international standards, I generally lean on a cautious liberal center-left (pro abortion, pro euthanasia, fundamental rights such as health care and education have to be granted, the state should give the chance to climb social ladder, environmental care, Iâm vegetarian, pro equality of rights, liberal in economics, pro gay-marriage/adoption and what you have)* but I am still more worried with the ideology from the left than the right, for several reasons which might take too much to explain; but Iâll condense and say: it should be noted that the rise of a populist right is often a reaction to a situation, which implies a difficulty in finding common ground.
*on the other hand, I also have some typical right-wing beliefs such as: belief in self-improvement, self-determination and self-growth, development of good character, economic modernization with reasonable regulation, low taxes for wealthy goods/people, and to an extent promotions of cultural values over materalistic goods/career
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Iâd like to point out in the Genn example that a ruler with executive authority and an army of trained killers (not to mention Werewolves) to back up his words saying such things is cause for concern and action.
A demagogue politician that relies on democratic process to gain a small measure of power that is regulated and held in check with a myriad of constitutional failsafes to prevent such actions⌠is a madman who just commited political and social suicide.
But you can at least throw a bowl of expired yogurt to his face, just for the fun of it.
Iâd say wanting the Forsaken wiped out is pretty freaking rationalâŚ
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You do raise some interesting stuff, Iâll try to adress it as good as I can.
From the top, the issue I personally see with nationalism is what it stands for. Patriotism, to be proud of your country and birth, is one thing. Seeing it as completly superiour to everything else and more deserving of anything compared to others, that is wrong. And that is nationalism, to believe your nation/country etc is generally better but also more worthy of existence. And I personally believe that is both wrong, and something that holds humanity back.
For the second point, when it comes to worry about ideologies, while I disagree to some extent, I can see where you come from, and also issues with some lefitst ideologies. Alot socialist believes tends to cause unstability, due to shifts needed to support it, and this can/will be felt by many just general people. Many left-leaning believes also share a common thing funnily enough with more extreme conserative/alt-right, the belief in various forms of censorship, such as outlawing various expressions and forms of dissent like other believes of various nature. This isnt the case with all of them, but I know that it is a promiment part of several leftist believes(Not something I support myself)
Finally, with the rise of populism. That is actually true, looking at history overall, it tends to stem up from the shifts/pressure that socialist ideologies tend to have/cause at the start. It gets people angry, and then someone steps in to take advantage of that anger and so it begins.
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Itâs not that your nation is better, itâs that itâs, well, yours, and should personally help its own people first.
Personally being a keyword there.
That would still be more a middle between patriotism and Nationalism. Nationalism itself is the belief of your contryâs superiourity.
To me it seems that in this context it simply means âwe want to preserve our culture and not be overrun by millions of migrantsâ
I mean, thatâs a pretty hot topic in the recent years.
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