False. It’s been retconned that only the Tomb of Sargeras was sunk while the rest of the isles were there all along. Unless you’re implying that the HM Tauren, Val’sharah Druids and Stormheim Vrykul were aquatic until few decades ago.
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Dang, harsh response for daring to use the word ‘mostly’.
Let’s all be friends and not endanger the thread so it can live until 20k?
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Another “Things XIV does better than WoW” peeve post, sue me.
FFXIV: “Okay so with the expansion launch here’s a complete, full story with a beginning, middle and an end that takes you from the start of leveling in this expansion to just short of entering true end game content. With a decent, satisfying conclusion that has some hints about what future patch stories may be, but otherwise you’re left pretty content with how things are left until the next patch is out, which will expand on the consequences of the aforementioned conclusion.”
WoW: “So with the expansion launch, here’s, like… 1/10th of the story. Another 1/10th is told in novels. Another 1/10th will be told every patch, which are about 4-8 months apart. And none of those pieces will end in any sort of resolution or conclusion what so ever so you’re kinda left hanging for about half a year for tiny breadcrumbs of plot. Oh and buy the books that are barely passable as actual novels. lol”
FFXIV: “Here’s a cast of characters you’ve grown personally attached to over the entire course of your time with the game. And now more than ever you have some measure of input during quests to have your say, it won’t change anything but it’s a nice piece of character for your own character, who themselves appears to have their own personality and habits developing over time.”
WoW: “Your character changes friends like they change clothes. That guy you met in this zone? Yeah you’ll never see him again, like, ever. Don’t care if he was liked lol. All these super important NPCs that act like you’re besties with? To be honest you’ve barely spoken and they only like you because of your importance and vice versa, do you even know Anduin’s birthday? Neither do we! What’s character building? And your character is a mute robot who blindly does whatever is programmed into them by quest text. Sure, we finally added some dialogue/quest options, but let’s be real we only added it because people complained and we still kinda want you to go down the road we want you to anyway. And the choices don’t allow any kind of personaity to shine through. Did we mention that you should buy the books?”
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I played XIV for its free month and was immensely bored by the experience. There was no story or gameplay hook that made me want to continue playing.
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WoW’s approach to major lore characters is the same as GW2’s for the moment, in which everyone knows -you- specifically you by name and is your best friend.
Although GW2 takes this to a more extreme.
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I tried it a bit too. And I liked some of the class system and I liked the proffesion system they used alot. Story was okay. Visuals were super pretty.
But it was a bit too laggy for me and the combat system as a spellcaster was -very- clunky. But I can see the appeal it has for alot of people. They seem to do alot of things right.
Ran’jit is just as much of a pain in the rear and unfun 1v1 as Zenos in FF14.
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Im ready for Dari’s wall
Honestly I do not blame you. The sad thing is I adore FFXIV but holy balls the intro is the worst.
The game acts like you’ve never played an MMO before, and a lot of the early game experience suffers because of it. The 2.5s GCD is agonising until the mid 30s/40s where you finally start getting more and more abilities to play with, many of which are off the GCD. It’s at a point for me where past lv50 or 60 I forget the GCD is even that long. But from 1-30, if you come from WoW, it’s very noticeable and it gives a very poor impression. But the alternative is to frontload tons of abilities at the lower levels, then get nadda from 1-50 or so. At the very least you do get new abilities fairly regularly, every 3-5 levels until 50, then every 2 levels up to 80. (Hey remember when expansions gave you MORE abilities? I remember…)
It’s not helped that the A Realm Reborn plot is particularly bland, mundane and has nothing really going for it until way, way, waaaay later. There are some excellent plot moments but they’re all in the late 40s and post-ARR content. From Heavensward onwards the plot improves significantly, whereas in ARR it felt like they were struggling to find their footing after the disastrous 1.0 version of the game.
It’s for this reason I usually suggest WoW veterans just buy a boost and ARR story skip, then just play the main story of Heavensward. (It totals to less than half the price of a WoW boost nearly, which is insane) By that point the plot is picking up and classes play much better, though sadly you would miss the best parts of 2.X, you can look up a summary to know what’s going on. That or I suggest veterans play a fast DPS as their first class, like Pugilist/Monk, which gets a haste buff fairly early on and has positionals to keep you awake even during low level content.
There’s been tons of suggestions for Square to address the major issues with ARR but I doubt they’ll overhaul it. The most they’ve done is vastly reduce the XP needed to get from 1-50 (Side quests are borderline optional now, throw in a few dungeons and you can get to 50 just from main story quests), and introduce the ‘Road to 60’ double XP buff on new/low pop servers (Which I abused the hell out of to level through ARR as fast as possible when I re-rolled to join a friend on a different server).
It is a terrible shame, the early game put me off multiple times until they added the road to 60 buff on ‘preferred worlds’ and I played with a friend. After getting over the ARR hurdle I found the game far more enjoyable, but I’m not sure what Square could do to make the early levels more palatable to MMO veterans or to spruce up the story in ARR.
The one wart on the otherwise excellent Shadowbringers story. Zenos at least was cool, literally weeb Arthas. This guy just reminds me of that schmuck from Dragonball that Goku dabs on repeatedly, yet somehow he’s 100x stronger than the Warrior of Light? Who’s canonically killed gods? Gimme a break…
You were not ready.
I agree.
i enjoyed the Zenos story so long as it wasn’t the; “time for you to spend 20 minutes slogging through his health 1v1” bits.
Zenos is interesting, FIGHTING Zenos however, isn’t and I don’t really need another one of these types of adversaries.
Yeah I played until level 20 I think? I went Lalafell Thaumaturgist because I like gnome-like characters and I like the idea of a black mage. And the rotation was simple enough, swap between fire and ice, but omg was the casting timer slow and the cooldowns as well…
And the animations while awesome locked you in a kinda clunky gamestyle. The meele classes seemed to suffer less from this.
Overall though, it gave me a nice impression, the quests were nice, the story was fun and I adore the graphics and style. But it didnt run well enough for me to continue playing.
WoW runs better, or Lotro that runs on potato computers.
Yeah that should have been a one off thing.
I liked it because it:
A) Gave me an in character rival who whooped my butt at lv60 then could beat 1v1 at lv70.
B) Established a mechanical and roleplay relationship with him.
This guy is just a poser who isn’t even interesting.
Especially because; Elidibus is possessing the corpse and the real Zenos is out there somewhere too. We’re going to come back to the source and it’ll be back to slogging through Zenos again.
i kind of want a break from that type of fight.
The cast time is slow, yes. But it’s largely to align more or less with the longer GCD. But from about… I think 30? 35? You get more insant spells. I’ve been playing Black Mage at 60+ lately and it’s actually pretty dang fast. At a certain point you get a triple swift cast buff which lets you cast three spells in rapid succession.
Like I said though a lot of people’s complaints about the game give away that they never got past 20 or 30, which is a problem that Square needs to address at some point imo. But I can’t think of how without either having ability droughts while leveling or massively overhauling how combat works at low levels.
As for running the game, it is on the beefier side. WoW is optimised and smooth as butter and LOTRO’s engine hasn’t been touched significantly since 2006. So can’t fault you there.
If I had a better computer, time and money I would probably try to get into more since it seems like they are doing alot of stuff I like ![:slight_smile:](https://d1bg94bbsh66ji.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/slight_smile.png?v=6" ":slight_smile:")
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If they want to maintain a stable stream of new people, ye. I’ve tried three or four times now and that’s the level range where I always end up quitting.
I could just buy a boost to check out the apparently better higher levels but tbh after buying the game, paying the sub and getting half way past the apparently boring part the whole “just spend more money on it” thing doesn’t sound appealing enough to me.
Peeve: 8.2 removed the ability to add an opposing faction player as a BattleTag friend.
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Currently, there’s an EXP boost on the two new servers to draw people into playing on them. It’d at least get you through the bit before 30 faster.
That’s the part I got past a lot already. The game just isn’t for me, apparently. Tried to get into it because I have some good friends playing it but I just don’t enjoy it. (I also find WoW’s visual style more appealing so that doesn’t help either.)