Pet Peeve: The Undying

You mean because the Sha they had kept carefully imprisoned and established a culture of emotional discipline to keep in check broke out thanks to the Alliance and Horde’s absolute and total lack of anything resembling emotional discipline?

They were not lazy, wth. They were busy because the Sha the Alliance and Horde had fed to godlike levels with their emotions went berserk all over the land, including inside the Shado-pan HQ.

He has every justification to be pissed off. Buying your friend a bike doesn’t excuse crashing his car. Us helping to lock down the Sha again doesn’t bring back all the ones who died in the process.

Mantid? They were being managed, one fight a century was enough to hold them off. Until the outsiders came and jacked them up with Sha.

Mogu? They had been hiding for so long as to be considered rumours, myths. And then an outsider shows up and brings back the Thunder King.

If it wasn’t for their generally hospitable nature, the pandaren would likely demand enormous reparations from the Alliance and Horde for the havoc they have wrought directly and through carelessness. And they would be justified.

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Cue both factions going “you and what army?” followed by a shared guffaw.

We’re working on that…

Taran Zhu speaks with the Alliance and Horde after they deal with the Sha for him, 2013 colourised
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Pretty much how he often came across in the game to me.

‘Oops, I released a rhino into your china shop and ruined absolutely everything. But look! I got it out again, all on my own! Hahaha, you are so useless and ungrateful!’

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You’re taking this a bit too seriously friend.

It’s fun to make fun of Taran Zhu… It’s very easy really.

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Groan in ten characters.

Continuing this analogy, the Shado-Pan start furiously throwing china everywhere while yelling “THIS IS YOUR FAULT” even as we’re gluing them back together

Pats Pandaria’s lore is the best we had… But sometimes it’s too subtle for the uneducated filth in here.

It’s best to laugh alongside them, then convince them.

No. They fought to restrain the Sha, which we see everywhere from Jade Forest to Townlong Steppes.

When have they propagated the Sha? What on earth is this logic? Or are you blaming them for getting possessed by the uber-sha the outsiders released?

By way of deterministic consequentialism, they wouldn’t be wrong. Still a bad move, but the blame remains true.

The only legit criticism I have against Pandaria is that… Certainly the culture of emotional control is great but it wasn’t one that came naturally but was somewhat forced a bit.

It’s hard to believe that nobody, for 10K years in Pandaria never tried to find a way to finally get rid of the Sha… Or that exterior influence might eventually come on their continent, They had Liu-Lang telling them about other cultures c’mon!

Which we did. Every quest involving the Sha of Doubt was the Alliance and Horde, not the Shado-Pan. The same goes for the Sha of Despair and Fear. The Shado-Pan contained the Sha of Hatred and Violence, but it was also the Alliance and Horde who killed them when they liberated the monastery and later in Townlong Steppes, unless Blizzard retroactively states it was entirely the Shado-Pan in the next Chronicles, if they write it.

I’m gonna suggest that Taran Zhu didn’t exactly need a lot of help getting possessed, given his characterisation.

I mean, the shado-pan were only occupied with those sha…because of the A+H releasing them en masse and swarming them.

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We then killed them.
It’s not my fault I’m better at their job than them, smh.

There’s limits to what the in-game world can show because it’s so small. But in the Jade Forest for example, Taran Zhu personally saves Rell and Nazgrim from possession. He launches a big chase into Townlong for Hatred, I think? You take part, but he was obviously not going to call off the chase even if you didn’t.

But I get it, Takkihira. If only the Shado-pan didn’t go out in so light clothes, maybe the Sha wouldn’t have been tempted! It’s the Shado-pan’s fault, clearly.

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Yeah, because the player is basically a demigod. You kill titans too. Everything dies before the adventurer.

You cleaned up the mess you made. Why’d you be congratulated or praised for that?

The Shado Pan had every right to be displeased with us. After all, we didn’t come to Pandaria to sit and have some tea. We came to literally claim it for our faction.

Look, mom! I dropped my food on the floor, and I cleaned it up - no thanks to you! Ugh you’re so useless mom!

Evoking a phrase used to blame victims of sexual violence over “maybe the shado pan aren’t omnipotent and infallible” discussions isn’t particularly tasteful.

Not my argument.