Pet peeves: The return (Part 1)

My wife still won’t let go of the Toby Maguire Spiderman movies. I happen to agree that Into the Spiderverse is the best Spiderman movie to date, and one hell of a movie in it’s own right.

But for her if there’s no Maguire then she ain’t about it. She doesn’t love the Tom Holland movies because they’re too tied into the MCU, and particularly involve Iron Man who she really doesn’t like.

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Because they are perfect. She has good taste!

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We rewatched them recently, and I can pretty much only see the memes and not much else.

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The hill I’ve fought and bled on since I was a wee lad is that the Raimi trilogy was never any good (except for Jonah S Jameson)

I think they were good for what they were at the time. They were fun and quite light, at least the first two are.

The Andrew Garfield ones were trash though and unworthy of my time.

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I have fond memories of gagging a bit when Peter Parker started splurging web out of blisters instead of using web shooters.

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I will die on the hill defending that Sam Raimi knows how to entertain the audience/make a movie fun.

In his own words from an interview: “The worst thing you can do as a filmmaker is fail to entertain the audience. If you do that you have committed a crime.”

I also think the casting in general in the trilogy was very good.

Those films were generally really weird because of so many odd decisions. I didn’t like that they made Peter Parker into this dudebro jock of a personality. There is wittyness/cockyness and then there is being an absolute douche.

Also what even was Electro.

Maguire was good… in the mask.

He had the expressive diversity of a plank of wood, otherwise :sweat_smile:

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On the other side of the coin, in the Raimi moves literally everyone dislikes Peter except for Harry Osborn and it’s never really explained why. Maybe because he looks like he’s 15 years past high school.

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Making the ‘superhero is a poor kid from brooklyn’ story about the heir to a multi billionaire empire and his marvel of technology that he could probably sell and do more good than spider man ever could is a peeve to be sure.

But I wasn’t exaggerating. Spider verse isn’t ‘great spider man movie, good movie overall’. It’s one of the best films ever made.

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I want solo movies about Spider-Ham, Noir-Spider and Girl Mecha-Spider.

And Spider-Woman too.

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[checking Ultimate Spiderman quotes to find the Deadpool crossover]

Agent Phil Coulson: Director Fury, I need the full power of SHIELD’s legal team stat! We need to limit how much actual meat you need to legally call something “meatloaf”. We can save the budget, man!

Nick Fury: Coulson, we need to talk priorities.


I need to watch this show

Spider-Man: What did you do to my hot dog? Did you spit in it?

Loki: I thought about it, but even I’m not that merciless.

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Honestly this was my biggest peeve of the movie. How am I supposed to buy that Peter Parker is like a social outcast when he’s literally the coolest kid in that school in every way.

Tom Holland I buy as being Peter Parker a lot more, I think his portrayal of the character is probably the closest we have in a live action movie.

This.

Also some of the gags in Raimi’s Spiderman have not aged well at all.

https://i.redd.it/1pt7pdubtakz.jpg

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I guess you could look at it in the sense of Peter keying in on the wrestler being a horrible human being and pulling at what would make him tick, a given trait of Spiderman since his inception, which in this case would be inferring to a homophobe that he is in fact homosexual.

Or it was 2002 and Sam Raimi thought it was funny to call people gay, idk.

The more likely outcome.

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Ah the 2000’s, the (not so good) old days.

Sam Raimi is a very good filmmaker and nailed the feeling of a comic book film but yes he can be a Little Bit Sam Raimi about social issues

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Six months and 17 days since new content.

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