Pet peeves: The return (Part 1)

Argent Dawn
18363

The baseline 50 opener is going to be something along the lines of:
Hakaze->Jinpu->Gekko (Acquire Blue Sen)
->Iaijutsu: Higanbana to apply DoT
->Meikyo Shisui (cooldown)
->Shifu->Kasha (Acquire Red Sen)->Yukikaze (Acquire Green Sen)
->Hakaze->Jinpu->Gekko (Acquire Blue Sen)
->Iaijutsu: Midare Setsugekka

After that you’ll be comboing to maintain the Jinpu+Shifu buffs and building to 1 or 3 Sen to maintain Higanbana and nuke with Midare.

Samurai AoE is getting the Jinpu+Shifu buffs (either by combo or using Meikyo Shisui to get there faster) and then Fuga->Mangetsu (maintains Jinpu) and Fuga->Oka (maintains Shifu) to build to two Sen, and then Iaijutsu cleave to spend the Sen and repeat.

There’s more stuff as you get higher in level but that’s the ‘core’ of Samurai concept. Everything else is built around that for the most part.

18364

don’t listen to him just press whatever skill is pretty as sam

you’ll still be better than most

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18365

Yeah tbh my main problem with samurai is the ability names.

It did take me way too long to realise that I should be using the other two finisher options, not just building up to 3 points and using it then.

The dot is real tasty and so is the aoe.

18366

Onto Demon Princes.

Then Halflight, then i can get my weapon.

18367

Acceptable. Now excuse me while I’m being adorable af.

Would just get suplexed anyway

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18368

I generally don’t remember them if I’m honest, I had to look the names up. “Opener”, “blue buff”, “blue sen” work just as well.

I do remember Midare Setsugekka because it’s got the ‘final attack’ feel to it, especially when you combine it with Hissatsu: Kaiten.

sad but probably true

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18369

Imagine not usurping the fire.

This post was made by Londor gang.

18370

this is the mantra that i live by

it keeps me humble

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18371

Samurai is all about the feel. It takes a little bit to get the hang of it but as soon as you do you will be set.

Generally keep your buffs and the DoT rolling and you can just flow with red-blue-green-powerup-finisher as a regular rotation and mow things down

18372

It was going alright until suddenly I had a kenki gauge and now I’ve got a whole other set of things to worry about fitting into the rotation.

Also I can never remember which parts of the combo are the positionals.

18373

Wouldn’t worry about positionals on Sam - all they do is give slightly more Kenki if you do it right, no extra damage or anything. It’s nice, but chances are your kenki management isn’t anywhere close to optimal (mine certainly isn’t) so just ignore it and treat it as a bonus when it goes right instead of something to aim for.

As for Kenki, the primary uses for it is Hissatsu: Kaiten, which you should be trying to use on any Iaijutsu - especially Higanbana, since it buffs the damage of the DoT for the entire duration.

There’s more stuff to it later with some oGCD attacks and cooldowns and stuff but for the most part Kaiten’s going to be your bread and butter Kenki spender.

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18374

This is all very helpful.

Thank you.

18375

There’s also a charge that uses Kenki that’s really nice - most Samurai abilities apart from the core ones (the red/green/blue generators and the finisher) are situational so you usually don’t need to fret about them.

The big one I learned about was the buff that lets you use 3 abilities without comboing them up first - the basic move is to red-blue-green-finisher without all the Hakazes in between but the best use is in the opener, where you can go buff-buff-green-bleed to start the fight.

it is very hard to talk about samurai abilities because you’re either like ‘okay so you first use Daganropa into Flowing Steel and finish off with Tokyo Drift’ or you’re like ‘uh the red one’

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18376

this is like 100% of the problem yeah. i’m just learning my way through it

18377

I personally open by doing the normal 123 combo to get the 13% damage buff. Then use Hissatsu to buff up the following DoT finisher. And after that use the combo ability to get the big hit finisher almost immediately after. That way the DoT and the combo ability both go off cooldown at the same time and you start off the fight with a lot of damage.

18378

I’m doing the same with red mage, tbh. The basics of ‘balance up your mana, get to 80/80, charge in to melee combo and dash back out’ is really straightforward but as soon as I try and check a guide for how I could be improving my ears start bleeding

18379

thank you, noble masters. i will take your learning to heart in my ongoing study of the blade

18380

Played samurai a lot in the past.
Still can’t learn the ability names. They might as well just write them in kanji, would be the same result for me.

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18381

same, i’ve given up and now instead just remember their position on my skillbar

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18382

Just remember that you are basically playing the Retri Paladin of FFXIV. It’s real simple.