Pet peeves: The return (Part 4)

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levelling an altmer necro and she just hits very diffrent for me rn

It’s funny you post these, because I beat the twink Mannimarco just about half an hour ago.

Maybe your altmer will become the next best necromancer in tamriel

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So, Wizards of the Coast are eliminating half-elves and half-orcs as baseline options in future versions of D&D, due to the unpleasant implications that come with treating individuals of mixed heritage as excluded others who do not belong in the races that they’re descended from.

But of course, the internet is having a field day with this.

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As the internet tends to do. What are the implications, if you could roughly summarize them?

I JUST CAN’T art atm
YES I’M SCREM
It’s so frustrating
aaahhh

I’ll send a screenshot of this to my raid leader.

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Saw some post on Reddit about how half-elves/orcs would be better if the other half wasn’t just always h*man, that did raise a good point.

Where my half-dwarf half-orcs at? Or my elf-born tieflings?

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If BM has 100000 haters I am one of them, if BM has 1 hater that is me, if BM has 0 haters it is because I have passed on from this mortal realm.

Half-elves and half-orcs will no longer be treated as separate races with their own mechanics. If you want mixed heritage to be a part of your character’s background, that can instead be represented via your character’s narrative.

However, there are people who are treating this change as Wizards of the Coast advocating for racial purity or engaging in multiracial erasure. It’s an obvious bad faith argument, just like the whole “orcs are racist” furore from a couple of years ago.

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Gnorcs.

We have the technology.

Don’t worry, he’s a marksman man.

She absolutely will be. Raising the dead and her revenue with her side hustle as a corny erotica author. (This is a joke. Maybe.)

Bless him, MM is my second fave spec and the second best overall.
I do oh so miss Ranged Surv dearly

My Dunmer has to be against the raising the dead part and at least, partially, offended by the second half.
Bless her choices in life

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I prefer the Pathfinder way of handling it anyway, where your half-elf (for example) can choose their upbringing in character creation.

I would note that they’re not, strictly, eliminated as options, they just no longer have unique statistics.

From the Origins UA playtest material (published originally in August 2022)
https://media.dndbeyond.com/compendium-images/one-dnd/character-origins/CSWCVV0M4B6vX6E1/UA2022-CharacterOrigins.pdf

CHILDREN OF DIFFERENT HUMANOID KINDS
Thanks to the magical workings of the multiverse, Humanoids of different kinds sometimes have children together. For example, folk who have a human parent and an orc or an elf parent are particularly common. Many other combinations are possible.

If you’d like to play the child of such a wondrous pairing, choose two Race options that are humanoid to represent your parents. Then determine which of those Race options provides your game traits: Size, Speed, and special traits. You can then mix and match visual characteristics—color, ear shape, and the like—of the two options.

For example, if your character has a halfling and a gnome parent, you might choose Halfling for your game traits and then decide that your character has the pointed ears that are characteristic of a gnome. Finally, determine the average of the two options’ Life Span traits to figure out how long your character might live. For example, a child of a halfling and a gnome has an average life span of 288 years.

With the mandatory feat at 1st level in the new D&D edition, you can also use the feat to help better represent your mixed heritage - a half gnome/half halfling might use the gnome racial statistics plus the Lucky feat, for instance.

This only recently came back into news (despite, as noted, being public knowledge since August of last year) because Crawford apparently indicated they were removed due to racist implications.

Even if true - something I don’t feel super confident commenting on personally - there are other good reasons for taking an approach which doesn’t elevate half-orcs and half-elves above all other mixed-heritage pairings, many of which are already canon to 5e settings and were playable in prior editions but lack explicit statistics in 5e.

Frankly though this is all small potatoes. The most important thing they need to do is change the racial name of Halfling to something else, because it’s stupid.

In Forgotten Realms, they are Hin.
In Eberron, they are Talentan.
In Dragonlance, they are Kender (:nauseated_face:)

Pick a setting agnostic name and change it up, for the love of all that is unholy. Would be like printing a new setting book and calling humans Mediumguys as their racialname.

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Its fine most dunmer are only offended if its THEIR ancestors being raised.

She is wanted by the Divine prosecution on several charges of indecently exposing the public to grammatical errors.

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What’s the problem with Kender?

You better keep your mits out my ancestral tomb or we finna have to throw hands.
But in general Dunmer are not super happy about it, unless it’s THEM doing it to protect their tombs.

As she should smh, showing un-edited writing in public

Kender lore is that they’re all kleptomaniacs and will constantly steal (sorry, “borrow and forget to return”, how quirky :roll_eyes: ) things from other people, including party members. A recipe for chaotic stupid roleplay and causing party friction.

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Your lucky your great great grand-aunts bone dust would cause my allergies to play up!

This is why she moved to High Rock, bretons have no standards and will gladly buy whatever trash you push out.

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POV: You’re running skooma past the border and end up in the middle of some stupid civil war stuff you really can’t be bothered with.
Also you can shout really good? (Don’t remember what hair I gave him originally but skyrim hair is bad anyway…)

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Treachery! The argonians shall remember this.

Thats putting it very mildly.