First thing I’d like to say. Season of discovery is great, I’ve been having so much fun. Thank you for making this for us!
However, if I had to give one criticism it is that of loot in raids.
Moving forward, I’d like to suggest an idea of bosses in Gnomeregan dropping a specific currency.
That’s right. Every boss drops a currency which can add up to buy a piece of gear from the raid from new a vendor.
The gear can only be that of rare quality and it’ll take multiple clears to get the required currency to buy a specific piece, with the better pieces being more in currency. Although, epics would still be from a drop chance ONLY in the raid. This is to keep the incentive of keep running raids for the best loot.
Pug raiding is a thing and while it is more advantageous to raid with guild as loot is more or less guaranteed, some people still prefer to pug.
Also, GDKP seems to be a thing creeping up. This would perhaps solve some problems that GDKP can bring into warcraft.
Eliminating a pay to win mechanic and rewarding people who pay to play.
Edit: I’d like to add that phase 2 would be a great time to try it. As the levelling journey continues, the gear we earn will become obsolete come phase 3’s raid.
made a whole thread about trying to get rid of GDKPs:
some people think im whining about me not getting loot
meanwhile the sides effects of GDKPs is just too damaging for the whole game
and can make the game basically unplayable (beyond just botting and gold sellers: imagine being pre raid BIS but unable to join any raid becuase not having gear from the raid to “carry” or enough gold to put in the pot for the slipt legit complety unplayable for alot of people what i have being against in wotlk classic for 2 months why i quit)
i dont think this will fully get rid of GDKps becuase Wotlk has emblems of frost and Wotlk classic basically having the long term effects of GDKPs full showing currently and has gone full rampent
so i think the equal to this might need to be more rewarding like final boss of the raid give a big amount of that emblem of frost equal
but unlike emblem of frost
this idea atleast saying items from the raid
meanwhile emblem of frost in wotlk only get the first version of ICC`s tier set and some items at same ilvl as ICC
Nothing will eliminate GDKP, but they can try to add things to prevent hopelessness. As it is now you could do 20 clears of bfd without what you want dropping or losing out on rolls.
Least this way 20 clears could mean 2 pieces of rare quality gear from the raid maybe?
I think I saw a post the other night about someone saying they will start joining GDKP runs just so they can get something for their time and effort.
In other words everyone would have everything even if they clear like 5/7 and new meta would be not to try progressing on harder bosses, but collect currency for their loot.
Blizzard would never give up on their RNG™ and badges never gave something more than welfare epics with exclusion being 1-2 BiS like idols or relics. Final pieces of BiS loot always came from the final boss, but you didn’t needed them in current tier anyway just for parcing.
With that said badge system would not solve GDKPs at all. People who are buying gold will still buy it trying to get full BiS ASAP and because MS/OS and SR PUGs would certainly not even try 6 and 7th boss.
A currency determined on clearing 5/7 wouldn’t be efficient if certain bosses rewarded a certain amount of currency so say if you cleared 10 runs of a raid 7/7 you’ll get enough for a piece of gear (Rare quality) but if you’re doing 5/7 or even 6/7 it’ll take twice as long.
You add a incentive to finish the raid.
Another mechanic could be you need to have killed that boss a particular amount of times for the gear to become unlocked at a vendor. Say 10 times before loot that they drop (rare quality) become visible to buy for currency, with currency being best earnt with doing full clears.
Maybe they could do it with tier pieces and lower grade loot only.
And even then I think it should be something like 1 item for a month of raiding, as in a complete last resort thing if you’re getting RNG’ed to hell on some tier piece or such.
thats why i think it will be best if that currency only drops at the final boss
but that currency needs to be worth something aswell
please enough to just kill GDKPs
even if get 1 item per month
its more than you get from GDKPs
becuase you compeat against gold buyers
so if you bid like 20 of my honest earned gold
here comes a GDKP player who have done alot of GDKP runs & buying gold with +200g gold bid and doing it to each other items
sure there is a slipt at the end but that gold buyer just gonna buy more gold and basically hoard all items
and in a GDKP run there is sure alot of them
i honestly say GDKP is even more worse “RNG” than the built in RNG becuase you dont know if your whole group has being buying gold and have to compeat against that with honest earned gold you basically need to buy gold even more when GDKPs is running insane and is not in that “eco system” when its become the “meta” running
you dont know how much pay2win they have done
and if every GDKP runners buy gold(as i am basically assuming at this point) there is a 0% chance for you get any gear at all
compare to the % chance for you get some gear in the dungeons with normal RNG rolls + drops
so if you bid like 20 of my honest earned gold
here comes a GDKP player who have done alot of GDKP runs & buying gold with +200g gold bid and doing it to each other items
Honest earned gold is super easy to farm /especially as a mage/. Also there is some minimum amount of gold that is required to get an invite. That’s why i farm 1-2h daily during the week and join GDKP with my 80-130g every saturday or sunday. For 2 weeks i won 3 items and some solid % of the shared gold /which i used to level an alt or proffesion/ Well, it is better than running every 3 days and win zero,isn’t it
It is. But that is not the point. Noone is against GDKP as such. The problem is that it is a the wow equivalent of a money laundering scheme.
You will find that in short order your legit gold will not be enough to even buy the required consumes. At some point you will then also feel you have to buy a few 1000 gold here and there
This post is a bit silly, if you want to remove GDKPs, just go full send and ban GDKPs.
Blizzard announces wednesday that GDKPS are against TOS:
Most people stop doing it for fear of ban.
Blizzard bans high profile GKDP organisers and big spenders, to make an example.
Doesn’t ban anyone else or try to.
Now only the worst people bother to do GDKPs who don’t care about the rules and they are in their own separate gameplay.
Tell me about how they will just go to discords, other services, different wording…
SO?
You will achieve reducing the general population of gdkp players by making it against ToS, that is a huge step forward.
Does being against ToS stop gold buyers and bots? No but if it wasn’t you’d bet most people would be running their account with a bot while at work, but they don’t, because they don’t want to risk the ban.
The bottom line is that GDKP itself is not the issue and is, in fact, a pretty decent system for PuGs, because you’re guaranteed to have at least something out of it.
People keep fighting these windmills here, where the actual issue is botting.
What the person is trying to explain - don’t go ahead cutting your own arm to fix a mosquito bite itch on your hand.
